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'Choose' rhymes with 'lose'? I mean c'mon, someone did that shit on purpose 👀

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[-] Aeao@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Read rhymes with lead, and read rhymes with lead, but lead doesn't rhyme with read and lead doesn't rhyme with read.

[-] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 25 points 4 days ago

They never did. Their spelling, meaning, and pronunciation are the same as they have always been.

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 4 days ago

I mean yeah 'loose' could probably be pronounced like 'choose' and it would still make sense, but it absolutely wouldnt make sense for 'lose' to be pronounced like 'moose' or 'goose'. Im not sure what you even mean when you say they switched meanings either because thats just false.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The bigger problem is that lose should rhyme with pose or close. Loose is fine.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

Don't get me started on ough and ead.

The lead soldier kneaded dough in the bough brush while they read the book that they previously read while taking a furlough in the rough.

I read this and all I could think of was "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo"

[-] Silentiea 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

How can the soldier knead anything if they're made of lead?

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[-] Here4CatPics@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

It's a lose/loose situation

[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

they are very different in my mind. perhaps because i first came across them in their respective contexts through reading.

even when speaking, to me, lose rhymes with booze and loose rhymes with goose.

this has never been a problem for me, personally.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 5 days ago

And here's me, another non-native speaker, just learning that booze doesn't rhyme with goose.

[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

oh, no, no, no! booze and a goose should never go together!

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

So did you think "goose" was pronounced like "choose?" Understandable.

[-] vaper@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Loose rhymes with noose. I can't think of a word that's spelled and pronounced like lose so you have me there.

choose lose cruise booze

all rhyme lol

Words pronounced like lose? That's easy. Close

[-] Silentiea 7 points 4 days ago

Close is way closer to clothes than it is to lose. And close is more like gross.

I was joking, close would only be pronounced similar to lose if it were spelled clues.

[-] thelasttoot@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Lose rhymes with clues, not close.

Edit: I just noticed your reply

No worries, it was just used to point out the premise of the post. Lose and close were the closest in spelling while also having the dumb pun included if you will. Bad jokes get downvoted or overlooked sometimes 🤷

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Wait, if they swapped meanings and then swapped spellings then doesn't that mean they're the same as before?

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 3 points 4 days ago

Grrr! English strikes again!

[-] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

May as well combine words with the same pronunciation into one word and call it Simplified English (/s)

Honestly tho, this is one of the features of Simplified Chinese, which created the infamous "fuck vegetables" (干菜类).

It's meant to say "dried vegetables" (乾菜類 in TC), but 乾→干. Meanwhile, there exists 幹→干 as well, which means "fuck".

fuck vegetables

[-] Silentiea 3 points 4 days ago

So this is where I find cucumber?

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[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

english is a very silly language that's evolved so you can do almost anything with it

it's a risky strat but it seems to have worked

[-] corvett@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago
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[-] db2@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

They didn't, except among the ignorant and autocorrect.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago

It's a miracle I know it, and having to teach someone how to read and spell was an eye opener for me trying to explain "this is like this except for this one word because... Reasons and sometimes there's a variation like this because...reasons" so many times.

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 7 points 4 days ago

Agreed, I am teaching my second son to read.

I am having the same conversations as when I taught my first to read.

"ok, this word is a 'sight word' because it doesn't make the sounds you expect. It says won, but it looks like it says on-e"

[-] Silentiea 3 points 4 days ago

Mostly the "reasons" just boil down to etymology. We spell things the way the languages we stole them from spelled them.

[-] teft@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Having to explain to my spanish speaking friends why an english word is spelled one way but pronounced another entirely different way gave me the same experience. So many times i have to tell them: “i don’t know english is just weird.”

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[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

English is idiosyncratic as hell. Didn’t someone famous call it “not a language but 3 languages in an overcoat.”

Adding to this specific instance is that even native speakers spell things wrong. They loose their keys, etc.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago

What about the words that are only different in tone.

Content and content

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

It is read like lead, not read like lead.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago

Or lede for that matter

[-] Jerb322@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Trust me, it is equally frustrating for most Americans...or almost, anyway.

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

Are you familiar with “The Chaos” by Gerard Nolst Trenité?

Deep breath:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chaos

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 6 points 4 days ago

I believe the generally accepted scientific term for the English language is "clusterfuck".

[-] corvett@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

This guy was British, rhyming "via" with "choir"

Previous, precious; fuchsia, via; Pipe, snipe, recipe and choir

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

"Made" and "bade" supposedly not rhyming confused me, how is "bade" supposed to be pronounced?

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

It's sounds like "bad", but with a shorter "a", so like "had"

Although I guess "bade" is used nowadays as well don't know how erroneous it's considered to be.

You can here people use it here

https://www.playphrase.me/#/search?q=I+bade&pos=4

https://www.playphrase.me/#/search?q=bade&pos=4

Seemingly Americans in those clips say "bade" (rhyming with "made") but Brits say "bade" (rhymes with "had")

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[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

I think he was Dutch - but they do tend to speak “better” English than the English.

The difference in UK/US (amongst other first language English nations) pronunciation is something I know effects hip-hop lyricism (i.e. rapping) as different pronunciations mean some words only rhyme in your own dialect.

[-] cholesterol@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago
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[-] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah it should be looz / loose

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago

If we start now, we can probably switch the pronunciations of Aristotle and chipotle within a generation.

Chip-ot-el

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No, go the other way, it's closer to Aristotle's name in the original Greek. Ah-ree-stoh-teh-leese.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 5 days ago

Okay TIL that these aren't pronounced the same.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Lowe's loose lows lose loss.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 4 points 5 days ago

Obviously the plural of foot is feet, so the plural of book should be beek.

Or one sheep should be a shoop.

There's also the English Vowel Shift. Which means words either side of it are inconsistent.

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