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submitted 2 years ago by ajsadauskas@lemmy.ml to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

I'll elaborate on my thoughts further in my reply below, but I'm keen to hear what everyone thinks of this concept

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[-] junbird@livellosegreto.it 12 points 2 years ago
[-] ajsadauskas@aus.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

@junbird @ajsadauskas@lemmy.ml Yes! That's the type of thing I'm looking for! Thanks for sharing 😊

@nutomic LemmyBB looks like a very interesting project!

[-] humanetech@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Apart from that The Pavilion cooperative has announced they work on a Discourse forum plugin for the Fediverse. And also I got word from the Flarum maintainer that they have plans to add support (but there's been silence after that).

Update: Here's a thread on Flarum's ongoing work: https://discuss.flarum.org/d/31943-federation-extension

[-] jackalope@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

The pavilion plugin was promised ages ago though no?

I was hoping discourse would actually integrate it as a first class part of the application but they seem to be shy of it. And with no solid plugin to serve as a proof of concept it doesn't feel like the issue will be resolved anytime soon.

Furthermore there seems to be a real problem with how to treat identity in the fediverse. I feel like that problem is still unresolved. I hear people talking about did etc but I'm not educated on the matter well enough to really say much about it.

[-] humanetech@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Pavilion had early plans to create a plugin, and applied for a NLnet grant. When that wasn't accepted they put their plans in the freezer. It is only recently, after The Muskeningâ„¢ that they picked up on it again.

See this post on the Discourse Meta forum about the plans.

[-] ajsadauskas@aus.social 7 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas@lemmy.ml Across the internet, there's a host of niche communities on message boards and web forums, using platforms such as phpBB and its various competitors.

Is there scope to get these communities on the Fediverse?

Over the past couple of weeks, I've been trying out Lemmy (lemmy.ml ), which is basically a Reddit-like platform on the Fediverse. (For those reading this on Mastodon, this post is actually a reply to a post on Lemmy, meaning you can read it on Lemmy, on Mastodon, or elsewhere!)

It's shown me that the concept of a Fediverse -connected discussion forum certainly can work.

So is there scope to either add ActivityPub to any existing message board software platforms?

Alternatively, is there scope to develop a fediverse-connected general purpose message board platform?

Is anyone working on it?

#mastodon #lemmy #fediverse #activitypub #ActivityPubDev #WebDev @tchambers @atomicpoet @LemmyDev #developer #developers #OpenSource

[-] mike@macgirvin.com 3 points 2 years ago

There are around 20 projects doing groups/forums and they're coming to Mastodon (eventually - not sure what's holding them back). The only thing that makes a traditional forum different from a group is that the first post usually has a title and Mastodon doesn't support titles in posts and many social network users have outgrown them. So, like lemmy, you would need to make the starting (topic) post on an instance that not only supports but mandates titles.

Otherwise if you don't care about titles, use groups. You can post to them from any platform from within your personal timeline. We put all of our project support and development discussions on fediverse groups long ago. But you can use them for anything you want.

[-] mariusor@metalhead.club 3 points 2 years ago

> Is anyone working on it?

@ajsadauskas@aus.social
@ajsadauskas@lemmy.ml

Yes. Momentarily on development hiatus, but I develop a federated link aggregator similar to HN, and old reddit: https://brutalinks.tech.

@tchambers @atomicpoet @LemmyDev

[-] blake@fosstodon.org 2 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas@aus.social @ajsadauskas@lemmy.ml I saw somewhere that Discourse is maybe planning or starting work on adding ActivityPub support somehow.
https://meta.discourse.org/t/federation-support-for-discourse/90921/87

[-] johnelalamo@mcr.wtf 1 points 2 years ago

@blake @ajsadauskas@aus.social @ajsadauskas@lemmy.ml For one joyous minute I thought you were talking about the Pub!

[-] bmaxv@noc.social 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas My impression is that people stay on those platforms because they want to. Moving the entire network from those to fediverse one is something they have to decide.

It's something that surprised me when I looked into #linux development, different groups hardly even use the same kind of medium. E.g. mailing lists, forums, custom bug tracker... Those were chosen for individual reasons that haven't changed.

The fragmentation goes through the fabric of groups, not just their output.

[-] ajsadauskas@aus.social 1 points 2 years ago

@bmaxv A number of the most popular platforms (Discourse, bbPress, phpBB, etc) are FOSS.

My thinking is if ActivityPub support were added, at least in theory communities that already use that software could open up discussions on their forums to the Fediverse.

I'm wondering if any of them are/are open to working on it?

[-] randulo@fosstodon.org 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @bmaxv as someone who frequented these niche forums extensively, i don't see any reason to connect or federate them. This is done loosely by someone sharing from one to another, which could be to Mastodon. The spécialisation of sites like saxontheweb or electric heaters is the main attraction. Federating them would result in an unwanted dilution IMO.

[-] ajsadauskas@aus.social 4 points 2 years ago

@randulo @bmaxv True, although I guess if it's a niche specialist discussion, it would most likely remain a niche specialist discussion on the Fediverse.

The advantages would be that specialists who might not participate directly in the forum could join in some of the conversations, and it would be interoperable with other Fediverse tools (potentially things like PeerTube videos and such).

[-] mkoubik@fosstodon.org 1 points 2 years ago

@randulo @ajsadauskas @bmaxv A nice use case would be to follow certain users or topics across different forums on mastodon.
Allowing users from other servers to post to forums, on the other hand, would certainly be hated.

[-] randulo@fosstodon.org 1 points 2 years ago

@mkoubik @ajsadauskas @bmaxv That's a great point if it were possible. An expert reply to a forum, if done properly, would be appreciated. IOW, value added from someone whith knowledge or experience

[-] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago
[-] mathias@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I came here to post that link. Now I don't have to. :)

[-] jonny@neuromatch.social 3 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas
omg I have been waiting for the day

[-] misc@mastodon.social 2 points 2 years ago
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