@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, despite Mozilla’s current trajectory because the Chromium monopoly will ultimately harm the web.

Hope to use @servo@floss.social someday 🤞

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Firefox because it isn't chromium, and I just like it. With chromium, google controls the web. Doesn't matter what kind of wrapper a third party puts on it. It's still chromium and it's still google.

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asking us to vote between:

• Chrome
• Chrome
• Chrome
• Safari
• Firefox
• Chrome
• other (but mostly Chrome)

@jon@vivaldi.net I like Zen browser because it comes with vertical tabs, screenshot feature, and familiar dev tools.

Moreover, unlike Safari, it works well on macOS and Slack notification. When I checked my Slack tab on Safari, I usually found that it didn't load the page yet although I didn't shutdown or restart the computer.

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I currently use:

Firefox on the desktop
Librewolf on the Linux laptop
Waterfox on my main phone

Vivaldi on my other persona on desktop, laptop and second phone.

Also going to try Floop and Zen.

Ostensibly I want to use Firefox forks but I find Vivaldi pretty cool despite being Chromium, especially on mobile.

TBH, none of them are ideal. I'd love to have one browser with multiple profiles across multiple devices, but I find that doesn't work for me.

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Other -> LibreWolf

@jon@vivaldi.net I choose Vivaldi as my favorite because I like many things about it. I use my home computer now for recipes, cash spreadsheets, and a shopping list. I had not previously used social media and this is a nice surprise for me to enjoy it. I used Netscape before Metacrawler and then I used shelves of books until trying Firefox. I used Chrome then Edge before I retired, but used Firefox and DuckDuckGo on home computers until I noticed Vivaldi about two years ago and put it on my home computer and laptop and cellphone. I like its many options and features and forums full of answers to questions I might ever need ask! It gives me a calendar and note and task pads and all sorts of things which optionally can sync and be seen when I use the browser on my cellphone or to choose not to sync. The very best is, when I removed Windows Operating System from my old laptop and replaced it with one of the Linux distributions now this Vivaldi continues to give me my familiar user experience. Thank you, to all and everyone who is and who are responsible for allowing me this user experience which followed me between operating systems, thank you.

@jon@vivaldi.net can't live without Vivaldi's workspaces

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Just wish Google was not used in vivaldi , so when I don't want their influence I use ddg . if there is a way to keep Google completely out of Vivaldi. I'd like to know how.
Thanks MTT

@jon@vivaldi.net Brave

I use Vivaldi but I would really like to see more attention to quality. Breaking things randomly in minor releases and then taking half a year to fix them is not okay, guys. A public issue tracker would also help, instead of the scream-into-the-void bug report form. I understand that you've taken everything from the old Opera team, but this part should've been left behind.

Firefox right now, and pretty happy with it, but Vivaldi is increasingly starting to sound like a contender.

@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, largely because I like supporting an alternative (non-Blink) rendering engine - I think a rendering engine monoculture is very dangerous for the internet as a whole.

@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox+Fennec+Libre Wolf

@jon@vivaldi.net I’ve been using Vivaldi lately, but I also like Firefox and Librewolf. However the internet today feels like that of 2000, so many websites only work with todays IE (Chrome), so yeah, the options are either Chromium or Gecko; and the latter doesn’t work for all websites.

It’s a very sad state of affairs.

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@jon@vivaldi.net Arc, with spaces, profiles, boosts, and really considered design decisions, it works really well for what I do.

@jon@vivaldi.net I would love to support Vivaldi more than I do but I worry about the Chromium base and also Firefox has its own plugin ecosystem.

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#Firefox got a ton of variants/forks recently.

• #Librewolf
• #MullvadBrowser
• #ZenBrowser
• #Midori

So yeah I take Firefox + Arkenfox user.js or Librewolf if they fixed their CI/CD

@jon@vivaldi.net I’m currently trying Zen, which is FF inside and Arc outside, basically.
Re: why, I think Chrome is the new IE6, and we need more engines to keep the web open

@jon@vivaldi.net I would love to use Vivaldi, but unfortunately the Ad-Blocker on Android isn't very good - Firefox using ublock-extension or Brave is doing a much better job there.

@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, because its the only real alternative to chrome and its clones, firefox its still the most customizable browser, vivaldi its the second, but the biggest con of vivaldi feels that its the slower among chrome clones

@jon@vivaldi.net After dropping Opera, I now mostly use Waterfox. Vivaldi is also on my desktop and laptop. But so is Brave, Firefox and DuckDuckGO. Edge is also on there, but only because MS won't allow me to remove it :(

@jon@vivaldi.net librewolf

@jon@vivaldi.net Librewolf. Based on Firefox but more lightweight. I'll never use a Chromium-based browser in my life anymore.

@jon@vivaldi.net I use a plethora of browsers.

I'm migrating fron Firefox to LibreWolf (sorry, I prefer non-chrome based browsers), but have a Ungoogled Chromium as a backup those times Firefox/LibreWolf doesn't cut it (I thought the world had learnt a lesson from the IE days; seems we need to educate a new generation web hipsters).

On Android I use the default browser (in @e_mydata@mastodon.social) for a few news/blog sites, Mull and Vivaldi for some other sites and DuckDuckGo when searching. Default browser is Mull with Privacy Mode enabled by default.

I honestly don't like that the Chrome based browsers seems to be dominating these days. We need a heterogeneous web render environment to ensure a single dominant player dictates how things will be for users.

And without such competition, I fear there will be a lesser drive to further improve browsers. Just like when Netscape seemed too complacent with their own browsers back in the days.

@jon@vivaldi.net Safari, because all my passwords live in iCloud, and I really like how the touch gestures for back and forward work.

#Firefox because of Multi-Account Containers

@jon@vivaldi.net Brave... because it loads fast, and has the best built in ad blocking. Please change your ad-blocker accordingly.

@jon@vivaldi.net It is like fashion. I switch between WebKit and Gecko.

@jon@vivaldi.net my favorite browser is Orion by @kagihq@mastodon.social https://kagi.com/orion/

@jon@vivaldi.net I like Firefox as a platform, but don't like it as a browser

@jon@vivaldi.net I was a long-time Opera aficionado, only dropped it when they switched to WebKit (and then Blink) and the last Presto-based version became obsolete (TLS-wise, mostly). Switched to Firefox, with which I'll stick as long as it maintains Gecko. Would love to jump to Vivaldi, but we need more independent rendering engines for the health of the web.

@jon I'm a Vivaldi supporter since V1. Because of open privacy (MV3) and open finger printing support I use more & more FF and Zen in the last months ... ;-( But I love Vivaldi, great team support and the Vivaldi style

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I use #Zen because its #Firefox without the drama. Plus workspaces!

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@jon@vivaldi.net Vivaldi and Zen browsers. Cuz I like customizability. Zen feels faster though. Vivaldi and Fennec on Android.

@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox on Android supports extensions, wish Vivaldi did the same!

@jon@vivaldi.net I use Watefox, based on Firefox, has Mozilla login/sync and an Android client too

@jon@vivaldi.net under Android only Opera and Aloha, under Windows Chrome and Firefox.

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I use Chromium which is a complete browser that every Chromium based browser uses. It gets the work done.

Firefox for everything else.

@jon@vivaldi.net Ordinare use: Chrome. Security work: Firefox.

@jon@vivaldi.net my favourite is Zen.

Has anyone tried floorp? I’ve been using it and it seems good with side tabs. Any others with opinion (good or bad) about it?

@jon@vivaldi.net I hate them all for different reasons. Here are my requirements:

1. Ad blocker should be the default, no matter what corporations think.
2. It should be possible to inspect and manipulate the code in real time.
3. It should be FOSS.
4. It should not force feed proprietary technologies or antifeatures.
5. It should not require gazillion of RAM or storage. Why I would need 100-150 MB just for a text?

@jon Firefox on Desktop, Vivaldi on mobile.

Vivaldi is close for me on Mobile because it works really well, but I'm using the Fennec version of Firefox from F-droid currently and it's a favorite, with Vivaldi close behind. Close on mobile because it's the second closest thing for me on privacy goals, and Firefox & forks on Android are a bit buggy.

Firefox (preferably forks) on desktop fully because of the UI being open source, no slight against Vivaldi for that, I fully understand the reasoning for not doing so. I just prefer open source so I bias towards as much as possible of it when not overly difficult to do so.

I do not trust Mozilla, more open source nature of the app allows me to take trust of ownership out of the equation a bit, especially so with forks.

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