Can we not use Fox News, please? They legally argued in court they are strictly entertainment and no reasonable person would believe them. In other words, they are literal propaganda.
But yeah, I hope the smug voters that sat this election out are happy...
I know this is a disgusting thought but, assuming there are ever free elections in the United States again, Gaza won't be an issue in 2028. Palestine will just be a memory.
They'll just move on to Iran
Perhaps, but Iran has oil and a closer relationship with Russia.
It's already a memory for plenty. All the cool kids are upset over a squirrel killed in New York
The outrage is so selective. Democrats kill peanut, infringing on some guys right to have wild animals but you don’t hear a peep about the GOP sheriff who arrested a lady because her kid walked to the store. She is facing a year in prison.
I hear about that woman getting jail time for that on the regular, I don't know what you are talking about, I see it one headlines from mainstream sources too.
Also, people can be mad about multiple things at once
Where my “Democrats are evil genocide people” posters now?
the blue maga can’t see anything with their tongue so up dnc cronies.
Are you asking if we still think Biden and Harris are complicit in the ongoing genocide? Yeah, yeah we do. Shit is bad right now, long before Trump takes office.
Russians don't need to make them anymore.
Democrats should never have supported genocide. Am I a Russian?
Right here. Republicans being worse doesn't excuse selling weapons for an ongoing genocide. Democrats never should have done that. And it got you nothing. You supported genocide for nothing.
I think a lot of the hostility here is because centrists are mad that trump is going to be able to take credit for the complete implementation of their only policy.
It still applies? Just because the Republicans are exponentially worse doesn't mean the democrats weren't supporting genocide too.
No, it doesn’t apply at all.
The point of the anti-Dem posts was to get people to not vote Dem when objectively allowing a trump win was worse.
You’re suggesting actively supporting worse is better.
That’s fucked up.
I'm not at all suggesting supporting worse is better and I have no clue how you came to that conclusion. Allowing a Trump win was absolutely worse and I agree it would have been better for everyone to suck it up and vote blue.
That being said its incredibly fucked up to pretend the democrats are completely innocent which is just blatantly not true. They are better by comparison, but definitely not innocent and still supportive of genocide.
I'm not talking about the posts, I'm talking about you guys trying to sweep shit under the rug. It doesn't work like that.
Why are americans so fuckin dumb? Instead of pointing their fingers at millions of trump voters, they are pointing it at people with empathy for having anti-genocider stance.
It feels like they are just interested in finding a scapegoat to blame rather than asking the real questions, why did so many people voted for trump? Did kamala, despite having more funding, failed to convey her plan? What happened and why it happened and how can it be avoided?
It feels like they are just interested in finding a scapegoat to blame rather than asking the real questions, why did so many people voted for trump? Did kamala, despite having more funding, failed to convey her plan? What happened and why it happened and how can it be avoided?
You answered these questions in your very first line.
Why are americans so fuckin dumb?
Instead of pointing their fingers at millions of trump voters, they are pointing it at people with empathy for having anti-genocider stance.
Trump voters are lost. We (incorrectly) expected those that aren't dumb enough to directly vote for Trump to be smart enough to understand FPTP voting and act appropriately to avoid the worse outcome.
We were wrong.
Good work Pro-Palestinian voters who support, especially in Michigan, Mango Mussolini or an independent. We tried to warn you and there is going plenty of US made tungsten zipping through the air in Gaza and southern Lebanon, This also means you can kiss the West Bank good-bye and that is Israeli's primary objective.
Democrats were never holding them back from expanding, they literally expanded the war into Lebanon under Biden. The only check they ever had are the people on the ground fighting.
The outcome wasn’t even decided on Palestine. And the majority of people who are against the genocide understood what was at stake, tried to push Harris left but voted for her in the end.
So you can stop trying to scapegoat anyone who is against genocide as being somehow responsible for this outcome.
If her base had spent more time calling her out for simultaneously calling Trump “hilterian” while also copying Hitler’s policies and chasing after those Republican votes and trying to please her corporate masters rather than fighting for the working class and using left wing economic policies to go after the billionaires and do something substantial about the everyday cost of living, housing, food, healthcare things would have turned out different.
She needed those working class votes - all the people who will never own a home, can’t afford to go to a doctor and don’t give two shits about Palestine one way or the other.
It sure might have given her a bump if she had made any kind of signal that she would make any kind of change on Palestine post-election. Apply American law to stop some shipments of weapons to an active genocide. Instead we got “most lethal military in the world” and Walz saying Israel must expand its borders. You have to understand that people who know Trump is much worse would still vote for her given the circumstances, but that’s not going to cause a surge of a big group of people to get out and vote.
Still it may not have been enough without going to the mat to fight for the working class.
Like really, imagine if it was your family and friends who had been killed in their beds by a year of slaughter by Biden / Harris / Netanyahu. And people are telling you “yeah but you’ve gotta vote for the people who killed your family or the other guys might start killing more people”. I don’t know about you but if all my family and friends had already been killed I might not have the energy to go out and vote for their murderers, or even have the will to live or participate in this fucked up world anymore.
You can’t just shut down any leftist voices and continually run to the right and expect to win. If the voters who have been groomed for years on right-wing content want Hitler they’ve going to choose the real deal not Hitler-lite.
If you throw your hands up and decide you’re now pro-genocide all of a sudden because you’ve scapegoated the victims of genocide, I don’t think you were ever really opposed to it, and you’re likely to accept the next genocide and the one after that.
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