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[-] Joelk111@lemmy.world 153 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If this goes live, I'm out. YT premium is my most expensive subscription, but I watch enough YouTube that I'm OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers. If I still get ads? Nah dawg. I'll divy up that money amongst patreons or whatever, and install add blockers.

[-] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If your main reason for paying premium is for ad blocking, I’d suggest just cancelling it now and using ad blockers. If you want to support creators, I’d say that it’s better to cancel and subscribe to a few patreons - I’d pick some of the smaller creators you like, to spread some of that support around a bit.

If you use iOS devices for watching YouTube, look into side-loading uYou+, it’s basically an edited YouTube app that removes most of the ads. You can stream from your phone to the apple TV, too, also without ads.

Not sure what the android equivalent is, but someone else will know - hopefully they will share in the comments also.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Why don’t you just cancel it now and use ad blockers?

Joel explains this in the second sentence: "I’m OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers"

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[-] Sprucie@feddit.uk 13 points 1 month ago

ReVanced is great on Android, it also enables other YouTube premium features such as picture-in-picure mode.

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[-] puntyyoke@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Reasonable advice, but I'd note that I pay for premium and patreon specifically because I can only afford patreon for a few creators. I'd rather pay everyone I watch. While YouTube isn't perfect, I like the service enough that I don't mind paying for it.

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[-] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 144 points 1 month ago

I guess they are premium ads?

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 76 points 1 month ago

this but unironically

advertisers paid a premium

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago

Ad companies have the new subscription tier of Premium Buster, so now you have to upgrade to Premium Buster Buster

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[-] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Good one! 🤣

[-] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 126 points 1 month ago

u/Dangerous-Pizza7054 from the article,

Seems like the user tracking "special promotion" overrides the premium. They don't even say whether it's expected or not. But my take away is that paying for premium may or may not show you ads, but you are definitely tracked and harvested for data. (Maybe even more so, since, well, you are more valuable to them.)

[-] mlen@awful.systems 35 points 1 month ago

ublock is cheaper and actually works

[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago

So premium users put their data on a pedestal for Google? That's fun

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

That's generally; if you have an account, you are easier to track for them.

[-] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

I got the same Sunday banner in the middle of the screen similar to where shorts show up. Never in my life have I watched or cared for American football. Clearly a waste of money for the advertising company since I just closed it by pressing the x same as shorts on desktop.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Well yes, you didn't get first ads. But what about second ads?

[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

That has been my specific issue with paying for any Google product always. I understand when I am using a product for free that I am not necessarily the customer and that money has to be made off of me or the users more generally somehow. That's "fine" (ish, not really, but that has more to do with issues of security than anything).

However when I pay for a product or service, I want to now be the customer and I want to be in control of my data and have the company cater to me. If, when paying for a Google service, there was some legally relevant things in place that insured I was no longer being tracked and used to generate revenue via third parties I would gladly pay. Probably more than they are charging now, but instead they want to have it both ways which is just not OK with me.

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

At least a subscription includes YouTube music? Isn't that interesting and relevant.

[-] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

That part of the support email almost made me puke of how fucking awful it was. "Why complain about ads when you get YouTube Music for free by paying us money"

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[-] doughless@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Wait, I haven't seen ads on YouTube Premium (yet), and I'm just now realizing this could very likely be because Google knows my wife and I don't watch sports.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago

What ads? (User without premium, but proper browser and adblocker)

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago

Firebox mobile + unlock origin extension + YouTube.com.

You get everything that YouTube premium can offer. Including screen off play.

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[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

What I find the most hilarious is that on a rooted Android phone there is an app that hooks into the YouTube app and eliminates adds in it. Even when my PC with Firefox and UBlock get temporarily blocked in the battle between Google and ad blockers my phone using the standard app still doesn't have adds.

I don't know something about it is very satisfying to me.

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[-] lychee 48 points 1 month ago

whos gonna prosecute any of this shit now

[-] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 month ago

Oh they will prosecute! They will prosecute people with adblocks and alternative clients.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 month ago

I'd bet that channel "members" don't get ads for that channel regardless of premium status.

IMO, Google made premium, almost nobody bought it. So they went after adblockers, hoping that people would get premium to get rid of the ads. People most just Adblock harder.

While this is happening, one exec is peering over the fence at twitch. Where they only way to get away from ads without a pretty good Adblock, is to subscribe to the individual creator.

So they make "memberships" to channels a thing.

Almost nobody buys that either. So they go... What if, even if someone is premium, we give them ads, unless they're a channel member.

Genius.

Paying to block ads per creator/channel/whatever, is a special level of bullshit that twitch has always had.

The system is working as expected. The companies are trying to find the best way to extract the most value from you using their platform.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

This is all conjecture right?

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[-] Fredthefishlord 7 points 1 month ago

People are buying memberships though?

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[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

The second i see an ad in cancelling my subscription

[-] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago
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[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 month ago

This is why I stopped paying them. Fuck them, you're just an source of income to them.

[-] filcuk@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 month ago

I mean, yeah, what kind of relationship did you expect?
They're not running youtube for the good of their heart

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Lol godamnit I just found out YouTube is a business, you're getting downvoted!

[-] lychee 11 points 1 month ago

Side loading works great for this and it's free

[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago
[-] scripthook@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

I use New Pipe for android and Freetube for desktop. I have all the YouTube premium features at $0 cost and no ads hehe

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[-] YogurtDoes@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Yeah I stopped paying for premium once I’d figured out using Safari on my phone with an ad blocker works with YouTube still lol

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[-] Drathro@dormi.zone 14 points 1 month ago

Grayjay on Android has been working damn near flawlessly for me. No clue if the parent company is to be trusted at this point or not- but I cannot argue with the results.

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 8 points 1 month ago

I much prefer Newpipe, which has been amazing so far.

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[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

This is normal, nothing to see here... except these wonderful ads!! - YouTube

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hi, would you like to try Youtube Premium PLATINUM for only another $2.99? It's EVEN MORE ad-free! We mean it!

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[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

A/b testing or code error?

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 10 points 1 month ago

Suckers paying for it

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Good, I hope they raise pricing too and pay creators even less. Make it hurt. It's the only language users understand apparently.

[-] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

I just can't take an article complaining about ads seriously when it's that peppered with ads …

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

They are "complaining" (more like reporting) about ads for people who paid to not have any.

Do you have a subscription with this media company?

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This looks like either a bug in the platform or people with Premium Lite. The article made no attempt at investigating this because all they did was to reprint complaints from anonymous people on Reddit. Customer support offering boilerplate reply about why someone is seeing ads sounds like par for the course here because it’s all either LLM chatbots or people in third world countries who couldn’t care less.

[-] sachamato@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago
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