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NGL, not asking for a friend. Given the current trends in US politics, it seems prudent to at least look into it.

Most of the online content on the topic seems to be by immigration attorneys hustling ultra rich people. I'm not ultra rich. I have a job in tech, could work remotely, also have enough assets to not desperately need money if the cost of living were low enough.

I am a native English speaker, fluent enough in Spanish to survive in a Spanish speaking country. I am old, male, cis, hetero, basically asexual at this point. I am outgoing, comfortable among strangers.

What's good and bad about where you live? Would it be OK for a outsider, newcomer?

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago

Depends how they behave. If they behave like "Expats", who don't care about integrating into our society, don't care about learning the local language even after years, they are not welcome.

If they integrate seamless (and this does not imply giving up their identity, just to make sure), and become a good member of this society, be welcome.

[-] Chef_Boyardee@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

I am born, raised, and live in one of the most diverse cities on the planet. I could care less about you assimilating to my culture. And I definitely don't care if you can't speak the language.

That's some Nazi crap to judge people like that.

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[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago

i barely integrate now as an american; mostly because of my neuro-divergence makes it easy for people to misread me due my intonation and body language and the number episodes of misunderstanding happened MUCH MORE frequently when i visited my potential new home country as a tourist over the last 40ish years.

i automatically qualify for citizenship for the country and i wonder what it's going to be like if i have to live there because i have both legal and cultural claim to the country; but i'm very much american plus an american that always seems arrogant and callous to everyone no matter how much he tries.

[-] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Do you speak the country's language already?

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[-] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

When I here Expat I assume asshole xD

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 17 points 2 days ago

Brazil is a Bad Idea®.

  • There's a reasonable chance that a Trump-like clown wins in 2026. Probably a Bolsonaro ally, or even a relative (there have been talks about his wife running for presidency).
  • Repeat with me the Latin American mantra: Nothing Fucking Works®.
  • Ask Haitians and Venezuelans how they're treated.
[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Repeat with me the Latin American mantra: Nothing Fucking Works®.

Costa Rica does!

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you're a nurse or some other skilled professional in some specific fields... We have kind of a labor shortage with some jobs here in Germany. I live in the city, should be okay for outsiders. I guess.

I'd recommend to visit a place before considering to move. See how the people act. And you'd need to learn the language to be able to take part in regular every day life. (Edit: And for most jobs.)

[-] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Ja, aber man braucht wenigstens b2 für eine Ausbildung zu machen. Das gelt auch für wenn man möchte als Pflegefachmann/frau arbeiten

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Stimmt, da habe ich wohl ein großes 'Aber' ausgelassen. Habe das mal ergänzt, Danke. Angeblich ist Deutsch ja auch nicht so ganz so leicht zu erlernen. Viele der anderen Sprachen aber wahrscheinlich ebenso wenig.

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[-] wertyuiop@feddit.rocks 10 points 2 days ago

Europe here. Plenty of expats here from the whole world. You will be welcomed, but getting a visa is a pain. Our politics are shit as well though.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 27 points 2 days ago

Here in Scotland / the UK you'd be absolutely fine so long as you're a decent person. There's not even a language barrier beyond dialect, and dialects vary hugely within the UK and each part of the UK anyway. Just please don't insist that your great-great-grandmother is actually from Clan MacWhatever.

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[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 12 points 2 days ago

You hit the nail on the head when you said "expats or exiles"

They're immigrants, and it's only Brits and Yanks that refuse to admit it

I'm an immigrant. Learn the fucking language yous cunts. Respect the country's mindset. Pay your fucking taxes.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 14 points 2 days ago

Heidelberg, Germany. This town is already more American than some towns in America.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In my country you'd be locked up at a random moment of your stay. Tortured in prison, used as a trading chip in a complex web of international intrigue and diplomacy. Accused of terrorism. Paraded for political manipulation of the masses. Then unceremoniously put in a plane to Canada so US authorities can go pick you up. But it would be very nice and welcoming up to that point.

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 2 days ago

man, france really changed its tone

[-] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Lots of Americans here in London, UK. They've generally been transferred by their company though. I expect it's v hard to get in when applying for a new job.

[-] multicolorKnight@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I never even considered the UK, in spite of having English friends here in the states, and US friends currently living there, and enjoying it. My limited knowledge is that visa issues are problematic, and the cost of living is rather high. Culturally it would be great.

[-] LordGimp@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

The UK spent hundreds of years searching for and taking home all the culture they could due to specifically not having any culture whatsoever back home. They also used that culture like they used their spices, which is not at all. The English are a terrible example of humanity and should not be recognized as anything other than the barbarians they are.

[-] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

The UK should absolutely give back cultural artifacts it took from around the world, but everything else you said is silly.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I think that was the point. To be silly.

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[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

New Zealander here. I work in IT. Americans seem to get on fine here in the IT sector. NZ is less right wing than the US but you wouldn't earn as much and housing is expensive

[-] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Ireland is full of tech jobs that pay well and that's the only way to live well here right now since basics are so expensive. Housing is a big issue, but that's not just our problem. Come on over, you'd be welcomed.

[-] Joeffect@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I don't know why but this is the first place I actually thought to move after Trump won again... I've never even been able to afford a house here...

I would love to take my family to some place that is more accepting of interracial relationships/children. because we all knew it was racist country but I didn't realize how racist it was until trump won again...

I could see them trying to end interracial marriage just like they want to outlaw same sex...

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[-] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I'm roughly between b2 and c1 in German after living here for 2 years. I met another American who has lived here for 12 years and spoke lower than a1 german. I could only speak to him in English. Don't be like that guy.

I'd say currently in Germany it's all depending on which state you pick. Bayern z.B. is the most international place I've ever lived. The people here (speaking from my view point) are very loving and caring. I feel my day with small talk and jokes and have no problem making friends, which is the opposite of what I read from others on the internet.

So I guess it all depends on where you live, how hard you work to integrate yourself, and most importantly is TRY to learn the language for gods sake.

Either way best of luck to you and enjoy your journey!

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

I think you'd be fine here in Australia but that depends on whether you have a job or not. Australia is good for anyone who comes with employment already. Otherwise its Work And Holiday visa pathways are better suited to younger people because of the usually physical and demanding nature of the jobs available.

Otherwise Argentina would also be legally okay for you, however I haven't lived there for a very long time so I can't say for sure. It would be a lot less safe for foreigners than Australia but I hear it wouldn't be more rough than some of the rough places in the US. You will want a stable source of income ideally from a remote job, such as freelancing for clients that can pay with dollars or euros. You will also want a friend who's native or already well established so they can teach you the ropes socially/locally and with the current state of the country. I would personally not go back to Argentina without a stable income because making a livable income inside the country is going to be next to impossible.

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Okay I've read about three comments and I'm gonna need someone to explain the connotation behind the word "expat" because the only definition I can find is "Someone who resides outside their country of origin."

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Americans view the terms immigrant and immigration negatively

[-] sevan@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago

The way I've seen it, it appears to primarily be used by the various British and former British colonies, including the US. For these groups, anyone from outside the colonies living in "our" territory is an immigrant (who is certainly a lower class!). However, if we choose to reside in another country, we are not immigrants, we are "expats".

Not everyone uses this term, but those that do frequently congregate in English speaking enclaves and make no attempt to integrate into their new home. They often see the locals as a sort of servant class, particularly because they probably came with enough money or income to make them wealthy by local standards.

As you might imagine, people with this attitude are probably not very popular with locals.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Working with a few of them. One moved here around 20 years ago, and one moved here 2 years ago. They're both doing fine. The rest I don't know very well.

Don't bring your politics over here, though.

[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I would be doing that too, but you got to understand that other countries have other cultures, some things wil be better like free heathcare and better labour laws but other are not "as good". In europe they do control a lot of things we can access on the internet for example. If someone doesn't comply with an EU regulation they will be punished, it's not 'freedom of speach" without consequences like in the US. Also being entitled like many americans are will not work here. So like everything in life some people will be a good match for.one country and others for other countries.

[-] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm really curious about what you think you're not being allowed to visit on the internet.

I can't think of a single thing that's 'blocked'.

Unless you're under 13, of course, in which case I concede there are a lot of restrictions - but that's a good thing.

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