well, it's not just Teams and not just MS. Have you worked with Zoom lately? I do agree that Teams occupies that very special dark space in my heart right next to hate and loathing.

It's the worst and has been running like total crap for years. Even Skype for business worked better. Luckily it is better than Cisco Jabber or Webex.

I love how they rolled out the new upgraded Teams and it's still awful!

Have to use it at work, it is a real nightmare.

It's the Sharepoint of chat.

Is there any video chat service that isn't? It seems every single one has some glaring issue that makes it a pain to use. And it's not like I could just use a FOSS thing that's better; this is one of those things where you are kinda limited to using what everyone else you're going to be talking to is using. :(

It sucks, it doesn't work properly in Firefox, so I have keep it open in a Chromium window too. This morning I saw new messages in my Chromium but not in Firefox until I reloaded the page. I wonder what other information it's keeping from me.

lmao, based. Discord too.

Thank you! Finally someone has the guts to say this publicly

While I have close to zero trust in MSFT and event much dislike a lot of m365, teams isn’t actually that bad and loop is really good.

As with all things in business, good enough is king

I actually don't mind it being web based, there are a lot of web based tools that run perfectly fine and don't use that much resource

Teams is generally stable for me running the pwa in Microsoft edge nowadays too

We user / have used Slack, Zoom, Meet/Gchat and a VERY brief trial of teams.

We have O365 AND Google Workspaces so we get teams and meet for free.

Zoom is the best to host a large meeting with a split presence. It's the best at dealing with variably poor connections. It shines on being able to share any specific app and sound control.

Meet is the best for small, low-friction meetings. However, it is hampered by its inability to share anything but browser tabs with sound, poor camera control, and poor user display.

Slack is a fantastic, too-flexible chat system with organizational issues. When it works, it works pretty well. However, it has intermittent video and mic problems on many systems. It is not good on poor connections and occasionally not good on fast connections.

Teams is bloated, many systems run it poorly, and there is an unacceptable amount of server-imposed downtime/issues.

Outlook 2010 is better than this new office 365 shit too.

Trying to play a video in a meeting results in 2009 levels of choppiness. It's insane.

Am I the only one that prefers it to Slack?