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[-] Iceman@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

White liberals women are going volcel until the Conservatives change their ways!

I'm going ahead and this dismissing this out of hand. It's not a thing outside of there curiosity articles and niche circles that have sort of read a bout the SCUM-manifest and so on.

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[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 3 points 3 days ago

Good, maybe when birth rates drop they'll panic and codify women's rights into law.

Also preferably the Equal Rights Amendment

[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Bold to assume they won't mandate forced insemination when fertility rates drop.

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[-] DrBob@lemmy.ca 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Ignoring every other part of this movement, the 'no children' bit is a question of safety.

Even where the laws aren't dystopian nightmare shit, and you have a healthcare team on standby to provide the best care they can without needing to worry about legal fuckery, pregnancy and delivery can still kill you cuz that shit is insanely brutal.

Disallow that team from intervening when there's a miscarriage or some other complication and the mortality rate skyrockets, as seen in red states post-Roe.

That's about to be the whole country soon. Ladies, if you do get pregnant, have a plan, and a backup plan, and a backup-backup plan etc with where to go and what to do if shit even even starts to feel like it's hitting the fan.

...also if you don't already have a passport, now might be a good time.

If I were in your shoes, I'd be scheduling a hysterectomy ASAP. And remember your doc isn't going to do a background check or anything, so if they start giving you the shit about "nooo you're too young, you might regret it later!" just remember that your uterus is causing you 10/10 pain, and it makes it almost impossible to accomplish any normal tasks, and even starting to cause suicidal ideation; also you already have 4 kids with 3 dads and feel like you've lost control of your life, etc... probably not all at once or they'll know you're bullshitting, but the point is denying women's healthcare is a problem that goes way beyond abortion, and if lying is what you need to do to receive care, then don't hesitate to do it.

Good luck everyone. This situation is absolute shit.

ok so. I like the concept, it's a good way to move.

HOWEVER there is one big problem. We can't use this emotionally inflammatory rhetoric, because it's what the right thrives on. You can quote me on this later, but i guarantee you if the right sees this they will call it "sexual eugenics" or something stupid.

literally all you have to do to make this a fully marketable and unbeatable position is to treat it like econ 101. Social interaction is most often based on simple contractual obligations. Those in question here, have failed, and thus, it is no longer contractually valid.

"the market for sex is simply untenable culturally, and in terms of healthcare, completely fucked. I no longer plan on having casual sex anytime soon" and suddenly it's like 50x more reasonable and palatable than the previous statement.

and before anybody tells me "oh well it's good for attention and marketing" yeah, if you want to spread the entirely wrong message. just look at the bear vs man debacle that happened a while ago.

~~although you have to be careful because the right will probably just tell you that this is the point, at least the religious part of it, in which case being inflammatory isn't going to do shit anyway. Tough times we live in now, i guess.~~

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[-] vordalack@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

This is a childish and illogical response to what’s been happening. The 4B movement isn’t practical to achieve its desired affects.

A better approach is for white women to have more interracial relationships. It drives the right wing voting base insane when you do that. Black or Chinese men create the most seethe and butthurt.

This way, women still get to have sex, form loving relationships, have children, and not suffer from the consequences of 4B.

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[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Lmao some women can have all these things without a man in her life.

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

🥛🤝🦆

(it's odd that PBS is promoting this, as it is actually a terf movement)

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[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

That's how you do it.

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Is it no sex for anti abortionists or for everyone? Can we still marry and have sex with pro choice good guys?

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