lemmy.world deleted their copy of it (due to site rules, and prompted by a concerned Internet citizen)
It's probably the biggest Community in all of Lemmy, so the ramifications will be interesting.
lemmy.world has been acting very weird lately. Almost like they are the one and the only authority of Lemmy.
Almost like LW admins don't want to end up in jail.
Nobody wants to end up in jail, but that's not a reason to become reddit.
Nobody wants to end up in jail, but that’s not a reason to become reddit.
Says the guy who is at 0 risk of going to jail for it lol.
By all means create your own instance with a rules-free piracy community, then when you start getting into legal trouble, you can bit the bullet and go to jail lol
Good job this is Lemmy then and each instance can set their own rules.
Every instance has their own rules and where your server is located can factor into those rules. Being a EU server and not a Russian server likely plays a role in that.
I moved to lemm.ee from lemmy.world after that whole hack thing a few weeks ago and it seems like lemmy.world has been going through some weird shit ever sense.
Yea… it’s time to boogie off this instance for a while before they turn into Reddit Jr.
It's their instance, they are free to do as they wish to comply with their local regulations
I am starting to get frustrated with lemmy.world. The downtime and stability was one thing but now they cloudf****ed it, the stability has not significantly improved and cloud flare can now see everything we do here. Once there is account migration I plan on self hosting an instance.
Hexbear drove them mad.
That "concerned internet citizen" was a 10 hour old account whose only post was complaining about piracy. It was a troll out for some good ol manipulation.
Hey, that's not true. They also had posts complaining about trans people existing and Star Trek fans being nerds. Still, it's admirable - in a way - the effect they had: I ask the lemmy.world admins for updates on fixing their technical issues, and get no reply. This guy makes one post, and they all leap into action.
oh well better late than never to migrate i spose
~~EDIT: nvm looks like dbzer0 has like 0 moderation (users just uploading gore to random subs and other shit) so can't blame lemmy world admin from having to defed. Shame.~~
EDIT EDIT: oh its just anti piracy, i thought it was a defed !
Official statement
Official statements on Discord and not Lemmy is WILD
Is allowing access to piracy resources the same as hosting piracy resources? Is Comcast at risk of being shut down because they didn't block everyone's access to RARBG? This is largely rhetorical; the answer is "no". lemmy.world's admins are not being honest.
Yeah, it sucks but it makes sense, there is no one to defend those volunteer individuals if anyone wants to go after them.
Welp, hopefully more people simply move instances.
Lots of folks here with strong opinions that have never dealt with legal proceedings, or an itemized bill calculated in 6-minute increments.
They did what? How are they suppose to tell me which communities I can check and which I am not allowed to see?
Time to move to a new instance, good riddance
Huh? The Piracy community on dbzer0 is still up, just checked.
People on LW can't see it anymore apparently
Another reason to create an account on a smaller instance rather than .world
Not sure why nobody in the comments is distinguishing between blocking a community on an instance (removing /c/piracy) and defederating instances (saying your users can’t subscribe to otherinstance.com/c/piracy). They are very different things. We should be very skeptical of defederation.
Removing a community because it violates the rules of your instance is A-OK and every instance should do this. Anybody can run an instance, and anybody can set their own rules, that’s the whole idea of federation.
De-federating other instances because you find their content objectionable is less ok. Lemmy is like e-mail. Everybody registers at gmail or office365 or myfavoriteemail.com. Every email host runs their own servers, but they all talk to each other through an open protocol. You would be pissed to find out that gmail just suddenly decided to stop accepting mail from someothermailprovider.com because a bunch of their users are pirates or tankies. Or blocked your favourite email newsletter from reaching your inbox because it had inflammatory political content.
Allowing your users to receive e-mail, or content from subcommunities on other lemmy instances is not a legal risk like hosting the content yourself is (IANAL etc). Same way Gmail is not liable if somebody on some other e-mail server does something illegal by emailing a gmail user. That’s why you can register at torrentwebsite.com and get a user confirmation email successfully delivered to your inbox. Gmail is federated with all other e-mail services without needing to endorse them or accept legal liability for them.
Lemmy’s strength, value, and future comes from being the largest federated space for link-sharing and other forms of communication.
Defederation is bad.
Lmao these idiots are on a power trip already. Running the biggest instance in the ground is a great way to start it all off. Fucking idiots.
Not sure that their monthly running budget would even cover a consultation with a lawyer. There's no reason that they should accept this risk. Just move to a different instance or host your own instead of causing drama.
It one guy financing it with donations and some volunteer admins. Seems very unlikely that federating with a piracy community could cause any legal problems, but if I personally owned the servers running Lemmy.world like ruud does I might be a little careful. My wife would kill me if I got arrested for hosting a Lemmy instance, man. Is it worth the risk?
I don't think they are idiots more centralization means more regulation weather one likes it or not, regulators somewhere will notice you more popular you become. Piracy is illegal and media publishers will use law whenever they can to target whatever they notice. It's now LW's fault. Problem is it grew too big too fast. All these FOSS apps they were showing LW as default option to sign up instead of randomised one. So a big mass gathered at LW and bada-boom-bada-bam piracy banned. Register on smaller instances or run your own.
Way to misunderstand federation + legal issues... Go cry foul on reddit, they share your "outrage" mindset
Just make an account on another server that is federated with them.
Great, time to change instance. At least it will have > 10% uptime
lemmy.world blocked it. I guess it is their right to do so, if you want to keep access to it move to another instance (it is not healthy that so many people are on LW).
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