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[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 130 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I like the prospect of more Linux hardware hitting the market with officially supported distros. The European Union should be funding this kind of stuff to supplant Microsoft within its borders.

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[-] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 15 points 8 months ago
[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 months ago

Imagine all the innovation if they did that!

[-] Damage@feddit.it 86 points 8 months ago

Far from my distro of choice but better compatibility with one distro usually translates to similar improvements on the others.
I'm very interested in the framework laptops, a 14" UHD touchscreen one would be an instant buy, the current lineup is still tempting nonetheless.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 46 points 8 months ago

That’s the beauty of Linux. The tide raises all ships.

[-] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I feel similar but with a 16-17” 3K resolution. Honestly it’s the biggest thing keeping me away from a Linux laptop and in my ancient 15” MacBook Pro.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 8 months ago

Agreed, a slight bump to 14" would be welcome. And maybe a more modern looking bottom shell, even for existing upgrade.

[-] kryptonidas@lemmings.world 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Good stuff good stuff. Have been a Mac user for years now. But the Framework laptops sure are tempting. Then it will be Linux all the way. More free and more sustainable.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

Hopefully Apple will be forced to become repairable again like during pre-2015.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 8 months ago

Don't hold your breath

[-] kryptonidas@lemmings.world 2 points 8 months ago

Oh yeah, with my 2008 MBP I have had replaced multiple parts and the screen. To try that now is a fools errand.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I have had gone Mac because framework wasn't selling in my country, but got an email about two weeks back that they started selling here too, so once my macbook dies or becomes too slow I will be buying a framework

[-] Mad_Punda@feddit.org 3 points 8 months ago

Same.
I think I would need comparable energy efficiency as well though. For portable machines it’s hard to go for an x86_64 one when I can get so much more battery life out of an arm one.
Getting official support for a distribution should help with a good out of the box battery life at least. But I think they’d need arm or riscv before it really becomes comparable?

[-] SatyrSack@feddit.org 17 points 8 months ago
[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 15 points 8 months ago

This partnership makes a lot of sense.

[-] SuperIce@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Of all the distros out there, they went with Mint?

[-] padge@lemmy.zip 15 points 8 months ago

They have a similar partnership with Fedora

[-] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I am semi-literate in "computers". That means I can build my own PC, do no coding, but manage to troubleshoot most things by sheer stubborness, search and the odd question on a "forum" In other words not afraid of tech.

I can't be bothered to sift through endless overengineered BS for a PC to do the few things I need it to do these days. Web browser, Steam and streaming, while not scraping every ounce of personal data and sending it to various entities for nefarious purposes. I have Mint, it works out of the box and I don't have to tinker with it, but enough customizability if I want to.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 9 points 8 months ago
[-] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 2 points 8 months ago

Uses the heavily deprecated XOrg display manager. XOrg has no isolation of windows from each other, meaning any app can record your screen without notice. All XOrg apps can also log keyboard presses arbitrarily. Since all apps share the same display server, they can easy correlate keypresses (text) with what app it is entered in, kinda like Windows Recall. Cinnamon, Mate, and XFCE all use XOrg. Cinnamon still doesnt default to Wayland.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Bruh every desktop besides window managers and kde/gnome are still on x11 mostly.
Edit: cinnamon and xfce and lxqt has experimental/preview wayland. (updated to put lxqt in experimental)

[-] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 2 points 8 months ago

Yes, most DEs use X11. I dont think that is a good thing. XFCE will take a bit to implement Wayland (approx 2 years according to their update schedule).

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I said it has beta wayland because of this news

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago

Sure but Xorg has been like that forever and until recently distros started to default Wayland because of Nvidia, and there aren't many of them yet. Also some programs don't run well with Xwayland, some don't run at all. You're right from a technical privacy point but it's not the end of the world and it doesn't have to be privacy-invading, just don't run proprietary stuff. By the way, CInnamon will switch to Wayland, when the experimental support is mature enough. Don't know about MATE of XFCE.

[-] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 2 points 8 months ago

XFCE will within the next 2 years.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago

That's nice to hear.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 8 months ago
[-] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 2 points 8 months ago

Nah, I personally dont like its look, Ubuntu base, and slow update schedule. I think Bluefin or Aurora would be better starting distros.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

not dealing with immutability no thanks.

[-] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 2 points 8 months ago

Better for newbies because it is harder to break.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah the upside of immutable distros, but I think nix implantation of immutablity is really great but nix has a learning curve and your .nix might get messy. + many of these immutable distros don't offer many desktops.

[-] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 1 points 8 months ago

Universal Blue and Wayblue offer most of the desktop environments available for Linux.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

talking about cinnamon xfce etc

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 8 months ago

Aren't a slow update schedule and a closer look to home better for newbies?

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

i wish that site showed other desktops aswell rather then apps.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 8 months ago

fair, but i understand the choice as that's a lot more work to do along with having to adopt some sort of arbitrary inclusion standard

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

l also wanted desktops as well due to it being hard finding a list of desktops that support wayland i just see gnome and kde + window managers.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

bruh whats up with the mint hate.

[-] ky56@aussie.zone 3 points 8 months ago

Hopefully this means coreboot support finally.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

wish they sold framework laptops in my country :(

[-] ERPAdvocate@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

What country are you located in? If you're actually interested I could do a reship, but I also understand if you're not as interested given I'm just a random dude on Lemmy :)

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No Thanks, I don't rlly need any laptop rn.

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