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[-] cmhe@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago

One notable software business professional interviewed by RBC thought that the West’s decision would “adversely affect the life of the developer community, mutual trust within it, and therefore the quality of the product.”

It was Russia and other autocracies etc. that diminished the trust by actually financing developers for multiple years to first earn trust and finally introduce backdoors into open source software, as demonstrated by the XZ utils backdoor.

In open source projects, maintainers need to have some initial trust into each contributor, and let this trust naturally grow with time and contributions. They cannot perform intensive background checks on everyone before accepting a patch.

While it is easier to uncover backdoors in open source software, there is no good way to defend and prevent against this kind of attack in this type of development process. All open source projects can do is trying to take away some trust from people within higher risk groups. This of course might lead to discrimination.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

It was the right move, but this needs to be expanded. Assume there are state actors from all of the major countries installing backdoors.

The digital war front will be getting hit from all sides. We need extreme paranoia to protect all of the innocent bystanders. Don’t assume even your own country is trustworthy in this.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Don’t assume even your own country is trustworthy in this.

My country is one of the world leaders in mass spying software development and even gave themselves the right to basically do deep packet inspections on everything going through it a long time ago, so...

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I’m pretty certain my country banned Kaspersky because they kept outing western backdoors and malware. And I would bet my life that Windows has supported free use government backdoors since at least Windows 10.

[-] Venator@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think you made a typo, did you mean Windows 1.0 😝

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 111 points 4 days ago

Oh noes, I bet lemmy.ml users all switch.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 days ago
[-] ravhall@discuss.online 37 points 4 days ago

Do you agree that the CCP was responsible for thousands of deaths during the Tiananmen Square massacre? Do you agree that China is committing genocide against the Uyghurs?

If you agree, think you might agree, or don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about, you shouldn’t be on lemmy.ml

[-] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 days ago

The fuck? Who are you to say who should be on lemmy.ml? Just because I don't agree with some of the people that doesn't mean I shouldn't be here.

Get the fuck out of here with that segregation bullshit. I don't want an instance that defederate from everything I don't agree with.

[-] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 50 points 4 days ago

You missed the point. He's saying if you hold those positions, then your account isn't safe there. I just avoid the .ml servers in general because of their heavy handed and politically charged moderating. Admins and power mods ruined reddit, I'd recommend not committing the same mistakes here.

.ml servers started the segregationist bullshit with their moderating. I'd also be interested in what your stance was on most every server defederating with exploding heads and burggit back last year.

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[-] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yes to both. I absolutely despise both country's governments because of their actions. However mirroring the government's actions to individuals living in a country does not seem fair. I fucking hate my country's president, and would celebrate it if he died. Why should I get judged based on his actions?

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 19 points 4 days ago

No one's judging you based on his actions, they're judging you based on your actions. That being to have your account on an instance that supports those actions.

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 8 points 3 days ago

You’re not being judged. We are letting you know what your instance is really about. Stay if you want, but you don’t align with it.

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 7 points 3 days ago

I think it should be rephrased. 95% of people on lemmy.ml are probably sane, but since all their moderators are insane, it makes it look like everyone there agrees with them

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 2 points 2 days ago

That’s very possible.

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Where are the tankie posts now?

[-] quant@leminal.space 14 points 3 days ago

Well confined in their instances for now. Wait until .ml and the Grad starts overflowing.

[-] rando@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

wait is there problem with .ml ? I've been using this account for more than an year. Is that the reason I see hexbear posts (I want to block this instance, but don't think it's possible from account)

[-] offspec@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

To put it lightly, the instance owner is sympathetic to grad and hexbear.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 4 points 3 days ago

.ml is basically Lemmygrad cosplaying as moderate. Your admins (the devs of Lemmy) are literal Tankies, your news community is full of disinformation and bans anyone who's spreading anti Tankie related comments, like the truth about Russia or China, or pro Western views.

!meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works ctrl + f for .ml or use the search function and note the pinned threads.

[-] rando@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

I originally created account on .ml cause it's instance by devs. I will try to see how to switch instance (with all my content)

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 5 points 3 days ago

It is actually possible to block an instance with your account. I heard Voyager and vanilla Lemmy allow this

[-] rando@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

found it, thanks for pointing it (I use Voyager). I may move instance if it's possible

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[-] sem 42 points 4 days ago

There is a theory that sanctions against a country with a tyrannical ruler hurt the common people more than the oligarchs / dictator. But eventually they do make life more difficult for that ruler

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The common people are the ones who overthrow the dictator eventually

[-] RubberDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Iraq Afghanistan North Korea

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

So only 3-4 left to go :-)

Jk

But letting the dictator free reign is even worse, look at how many people putin has killed in the unnecessary agression of Ukraine. That's not some slight "suffering", that's death and everything that comes with it for the families left behind.

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[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 44 points 4 days ago

Omg I bet lemmygrad is crying in their panties!

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