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OK, its just a deer, but the future is clear. These things are going to start kill people left and right.

How many kids is Elon going to kill before we shut him down? Whats the number of children we're going to allow Elon to murder every year?

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[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 11 points 20 hours ago

I hate Tesla as much as the next guy in here.

But I learned at my driving lessons that you shouldn't hit the breaks for animals running into your lane, because it can result in a car crash that's way worse. (think truck behind you with a much longer break length.)

Don't know if there's different rules.

[-] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

That's why humans have brains, for situational awareness.

And it's less about not breaking for an animal, as it is about not wildly swerving.

Also, you should probably revise your thinking on this before you visit any states that have large animals like Moose on the roads. Because if you plow into one with a car, it can easily kill you when it crushes you after impact.

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[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Just a small clarification.... Teslas only kill forward or backwards. Hardly ever has a car killed left or right 😂.

[-] Grangle1@lemm.ee 4 points 16 hours ago

I know a lot of people here are/will be mad at Musk simply for personal political disagreement, but even just putting that aside, I've never liked the idea of self-driving cars. There's just too much that can go wrong too easily, and in a 1-ton piece of metal and glass moving at speeds up to near 100 mph, you need to be able to have the control enough to respond within a few seconds if the unexpected happens, like a deer jumping in the middle of the road. Computers don't, and may never, have the benefit of contextual awareness to make the right decision as often as a human would in those situations. I'm not going to cheer for the downfall of Musk or Tesla as a whole, but they do severely need to reconsider this idea or else there will be a lot of people hurt and/or killed and a lot of liability on them when it happens. That's a lot of risk to take on for a smaller auto maker like them, just thinking in business terms.

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 6 points 20 hours ago

Oooooh, can we shut Elon down? I mean literally shut down actual Elon. Does he have an off switch? He's gone wonky and I'd like to turn him off now.

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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

Honestly, I’m surprised the car was still in one piece. I’ve seen semi-trucks disintegrate after hitting a dear.

[-] puppy@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

In what way? If it's the bumpers and the crumple zone, then that's a feature. Do you have a picture about what you are talking about? I'm curious.

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[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago

I’ve seen semi-trucks disintegrate after hitting a dear.

I’d like to see that, I’ve seen modern regular full size trucks annihilate a deer without disintegrating. Semis wouldn’t be bothered much unless you’re talking about something larger like a moose. Deer are about the same weight as humans, whatever is good at killing humans is usually good for deer.

The average weight of an adult male is 203 lb (maximum, 405 lb). The average weight of a female is about 155 lb (maximum, 218 lb).

https://www.esf.edu/aec/adks/mammals/wtd.php

[-] Fleur_@lemm.ee 8 points 21 hours ago

I cannot support tesla now that I know they aren't vegan smh

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 2 points 16 hours ago

I thought the deer would be running or something, but no its just straight on from the car, doesn't move at all! How the fuck does a deer standing dead center in front of you not get caught by the camera!

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

You don't think humans are doing this? Everything I've seen is autopilot is safer than humans in the aggregate.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 5 points 21 hours ago

The one thing I will say is this isn't a human... Deer probably aren't in their training data at near the rates humans are.

It's definitely still concerning, but also still maybe more trustworthy than some human drivers. We seriously give licenses to too many people. Within the last week I've seen a guy that went into the other lane by like 4' multiple times and I also saw a lady who blocked 2 lanes of traffic so she could make an illegal U turn on a 4 lane city street (rather than you know turning off on a side street/one of many nearby parking lots and turning around).

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

Deer and other animals are extremely common on rural roads. If they don't have enough training data then they are being willfully incompetent.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

How many deer are on that road? It's mowing down dozens of them in that video!

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 3 points 18 hours ago

Deer often travel in herds so where there is one there are often more. In rural area you can go miles without seeing one, and then see 10 in a few hundred feet. There are deer in those miles you didn't see them as well, but they happened to not be near the road then.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 5 points 21 hours ago

Is there a longer video anywhere? Looking closely I have to wonder where the hell did that deer come from? There's a car up ahead of the Tesla in the same lane, I presume quickly moved back in once it passed the deer? The deer didn't spook or anything from that car?

This would have been hard for a human driver to avoid hitting, but I know the issue is the right equipment would have been better than human vision, which should be the goal. And it didn't detect the impact either since it didn't stop.

But I just think it's peculiar that that deer just literally popped there without any sign of motion.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 21 hours ago

Ever hear the phrase "like a deer caught in headlights"? That's what they do. They see oncoming headlights and just freeze.

[-] Pandemanium@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago

That's why you flash your lights on and off at them, to get them to unfreeze before you get too close.

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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 21 hours ago

Deer will do that. They have absolutely no sense of self-preservation around cars.

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