"~~some~~ hundreds of thousands of you ~~may~~ will die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make" is exactly what vote blue no matter who people are saying to arab americans who are uncomitted voters

oh i'm sure the comments on this post will be real civil

If you þink ð solution to democratic softness on Israeli atrocities is to let Trump back into power after he handed ðem East Jerusalem, West Bank, and Golan Heights on a silver platter, you are eiðer a covert zionist agent or an unwitting zionist agent.

Eiðer way, my Amrikani-Falasteeni derriere will consider you as much of an ally as truck flags McGee barely holding back from calling me a towel head and sand n****r mostly because we some ð fuck how have been blessed to avoid peak emboldenment, despite your best efforts trying to "make ð establishment learn ðeir lesson."

You can tell ðese kids are white because ðey actually believe pulling a karen on ð two party system will get ðem a sit down meeting with democracy's manager for a socialism coupon or some shit.

No one on lemmy has ever made this argument and as usual this community of redditors in disguise believes in the hopium of a candidate more conservative than Obama will change her mind about genocide.

And that people are just gonna vote for her with that reasoning.

Im a non-US non-Voter. But I feel the whole "every vote not for harris is a vote for trump" is quite frankly bullshit. People raising concern for palestinian are not trolling, or russian bots or selfish. You just disagree with them and are resorting to name calling.

Here are some facts:

A) early polls show that in swing states, votes for jill stein hurt trump more than harris.

B) if a third party gets more than 5%, this unlocks federal funding for the next election.

C) voting third party shows the actual voter sentiment of tiredness with the two main candidates. It incentivises other politicians to either form more parties or for the main parties to have candidates that represent the population better.

If everyone just votes for trump or harris, in 4 years you guys will be standing in the same place as now or 2016. It was the exact same rhetoric in 2016 "lesser of two evils". Obviously something needs to be changed.

Yeah but those people helping Trump get elected are the Dems pretending genocide is fine. Say what you want about lesser evil but it really isn't the smartest political move to alienate voters who think genocide is bad. The messaging of "if you draw the line at genocide then you're the problem" and blaming voters for not vibing with that instead of, for example, dropping support for Israel and stopping the genocide is just straight up terrible politics. You should be mad at Dems for royally fucking the campaign up instead at people for not buying into this bullshit. Did you also support Biden remaining as candidate after the debate, despite atrocious polling data?

I do get that there is foreign interference going on, but seriously if you were attempting to sway anyone towards the Dems by shaming people for being against genocide - the obviously weakest point of Dems campaign - then in my eyes you're most likely the Russian bot trying to remind people that Dems are terrible. And if you aren't and you actually tried to convice anyone with this argument, then shut the fuck up until the elections are over, if anything you're costing Kamala votes.