Maybe if everyone that posted threads like this voted 3rd party, maybe 3rd party would get enough votes for once to push a reelection and get on the radar? Instead of trying to get people to vote for 2 candidates that don't support their needs and/or wants.

You do realize that the winning president has to win at least 50% of the electoral college vote in order to win. If no one president does then the top 3 candidates go to the house of representatives to be chosen. Just the media if this happened would finally put a third party on the radar, even if they only won one state.

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/faq

The numbers in this image aren't real.
Also, why would you assume that those people voting for Stein would have preferred Clinton over Trump?

Don't mind me, just sweeping þrough to prune ð propoganda weeds on ðeir latest block/ban dodge accounts!

Picture a situation where various political parties vie to unseat the Republicans. With more representative electoral systems, voters could select their preferred candidates, while still counting their vote against the Republican party even if their choice doesn’t win, all without the spoiler effect. Since voting methods are set at the state level, we don’t need to wait for federal reforms; some states have already enacted electoral changes. For instance, Alaska recently chose a more moderate conservative over Sarah Palin due to Ranked Choice voting.

Who would oppose having multiple opportunities to diminish Republican power? The Democratic Party would. In blue states, they could replace First Past The Post voting with a system that eliminates the spoiler effect. Yet, year after year, election after election, Democrats remain inactive on passing state level electoral reform in the states they control.

Republicans are moving to protect FPTP voting in red states. Why do the democrats want to use the voting system republicans prefer?

Its not that democrats dont know about the flaws in the voting system either. Just mention voting for a third party to any Democrat, and they’ll readily acknowledge the weaknesses of the voting system. Comments about the Green Party here will further illustrate their understanding of this issue.

If democrats understanding the problem, yet refuse to fix it, can only mean one thing. The Democrats prefer the country balancing over a fire pit of fascism rather than truly competing for our votes. They would rather this country be lost to authoritarianism then to play on a even playing field.

Party over country at all costs.

Yes it's the fault of people who voted for a third party. Not the people who didn't vote. Not Trump. Not Clinton. It's the people who voted for a third party candidate.

The duopoly got us here. Third party or bust.

To convince Greens or Carlins (people who don't vote because the Democrats are still too evil from their point-of-view) to vote for Democrats, you need to understand yourself and them. Once you do that, you'll be able to offer more convincing arguments to support your position.

If you're voting for Democrats, you possibly agree with the following scale of evilness:

• 10 Hitler
• 9 Stalin
• 8.5 Trump
• 8 Republicans and people who vote for them
• 7
• 6
• ~5-3 elected Democratic party members
• 2
• 1 you
• 0 Jesus

The thing is that some Greens see the world very differently:

• 10 people making the biosphere unlivable thru overpopulation
• 9 factory farmers and commercial fishing companies
• 8
• 7 Hitler, Stalin
• 6
• 5 George W. Bush, Putin
• 4 Trump, Republicans, and people who vote for them
• 3 Gore, Obama, Democrats, and people who vote for them
• 2
• 1 Sanders
• 0
• -1
• -2
• -3
• -4 Green party
• -5
• -6
• -7 them
• -8
• -9
• -10

The Greens' (and Carlins') priorities are very different. They may think that choosing to make the biosphere unlivable is the worst thing you can do, because without a biosphere that supports life, nothing else matters.

As he campaigned for president in 2020, Joe Biden made a bold promise at a New Hampshire town hall, adding repetition for emphasis: “No more drilling on federal lands. Period. Period. Period. Period.” […] The Biden administration has now outpaced the Trump administration in approving permits for drilling on public lands, and the United States is producing more oil than any country ever has. […] The reality is the United States is already dominant. The country is expected to produce 13.2 million barrels of oil per day on average this year — millions of barrels more than Saudi Arabia or Russia. https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/08/16/biden-oil-drilling-production/

They may think that torturing trillions of fish to death every year, and enslaving hundreds of billions of animals in torturous conditions every year, is worse than all genocides and wars in all of history combined. They think that voting for someone who enables even a single genocide is a line they won't cross.

They may think that given the choice between popular Hitler, popular Stalin, and unpopular Gandhi; they'd rather vote for Gandhi than the popular lesser evil, because that specific evil is omnicidally evil. That it's better to vote for good and fail, than it is to vote for evil and succeed.

Maybe the Democratic party should consider what not following through on their campaign promises gets them. I don't how their failure to realize their promises to their voters is the fault of people voting for third parties

Agreed. Hopefully Democrats put more effort into earning their votes.