Is this kind of stupid rhetoric that sows the divide in US politics and it’s why places like Lemmy and Reddit are just echo chambers. Just saying people who have the opposite few are stupid and should be ignored does nothing to address their concerns and they still get a vote at the end of the day.
You mistake conflict for confusion.
If someone's terminal values are opposed to yours you cannot convince them. Sometimes people change core opinions slowly, but almost always by interaction with people close to them (i.e. where they have conflicting drives to uphold or reject an opinion). Internet debate me bro shit is pointless and just poisons spaces.
this feels very ironic
Agreed: those people, who aren’t like us, are bad people and must not be tolerated
The apple fell somewhere completely devoid of apple trees and scientists could not trace it back to the tree of origin.
The rational debate is so the on the fence people see the problems with the bigots rather than just the bigoted opinions/“proof”
It’s about stopping the lies from spreading not changing an individual opinion. You could hardly call yourself a leftist if you don’t understand that
Tolerance goes both ways motherfucker
Violence against fascists isn't an answer, its a question and the answer is always yes
This is such a braindead take. Humanity is networked. You can cut a link, but you can't disconnect someone from yourself unless you yeet them out of existence
Drive them into bigot echo chambers and someone has to deal with them thinking everyone is secretly as bigoted as them
Respond in kind - if they're rational, defeat them with reason. If they're a dumbfuck, quote then and mock how stupid their words are. If they're a troll, counter troll them
And when they feel bad for saying bad things, offer an olive branch. Highlight the path back to being a respectable person
You don't need to be equipped to do it all - I'm personally good at counter trolling and reaching out to those already verbally beaten down
We all have to live with these people - we all have a have a responsibility to do our part. Give them the social rejection they deserve when they say unacceptable things - people who don't learn from logic learn emotionally, so make them feel bad. It's ok to attack those attacking others unfairly - just always leave a path back to acceptance
Kill them or rehabilitate them - those are the only options that fix the problem
When you debate the bigots in the "Free Market of Ideas", you basically say that these bigoted ideas are "Just as valid as any other"
This is why you don't see Temu shit on Target shelves, but in shady grey market apps.
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