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Message from the Godot Foundation Board (programming.dev)
submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by kryllic@programming.dev to c/godot@programming.dev
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Foundation's Reply

On Friday, we made a tweet that unexpectedly led to a wave of harassment directed at our staff and community. We unequivocally condemn this abuse. The volume of negative engagement overwhelmed our moderation efforts. While attempting to protect the Godot community we mistakenly blocked individuals who were not participating in the harassment. The Godot Foundation Board takes full responsibility for these moderation actions. If you believe you were blocked in error and have not violated our Code of Conduct, please contact us with the form linked below. We are committed to swiftly rectifying any mistakes. We firmly stand by our mission to keep our community spaces free from hate, discrimination, and other toxic behaviors. - The Godot Foundation Board

On community moderator Xananax

We strongly condemn the harmful language used by Xananax, moderator of an unofficial Godot-related Discord server. We want to clarify that Xananax is not hired by nor a spokesperson for the Godot Foundation. As an organization, we have our own official Discord server, moderated together with new volunteers vetted by our team.

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[-] andioop@programming.dev 72 points 1 month ago

An organization that can admit its mistakes, stand behind its employees, and offer a way to try to fix their mistakes? Now this is a great PR move.

[-] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't fully agree. It's still not good pr to lose your control and blocking innocent devs. Social media managers be doing anything to get clout.

I want to be clear that I don't support the outrage at all. I'm just saying godot needs a community manager who can stay calm and act responsibly. Also twitter is the hell of Internet. I can't believe people still use it.

[-] gurapo@lemmy.pt 52 points 1 month ago

After seeing the thread, I don't think even understand what caused the outrage. There was so much unfounded hate everywhere, what the hell? Is this normal in twitter? Or do people there simply have some sort of hate switch that gets turned on whenever someone says woke (word which, honestly, I don't even fully understand what it means)

Reading those comments made me feel like I was reading a contest to see who could be the most hateful though, holy damn...

[-] Deway@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

Twitter is a far-right oriented social network now and the far right is usually hateful by design.

[-] gurapo@lemmy.pt 13 points 1 month ago

Yeah that makes sense. I guess that the lack of positive replies could be attributed to the fact that the "real godot community" has long since left twitter. It's quite sad that the only people who still use it are those who spend their time spreading hate for whatever reason... Though on the bright side, them having their own little far-right social media to play means that there's a smaller chance they'll pervade other social media, which is a good thing. I definitely don't want to see those type of people here on lemmy!

[-] GammaGames@beehaw.org 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yep, pretty normal for twitter. These reactionaries are the type to pay for blue checks so they inevitably end up dominating threads (blue checks show up at the top of replies)

[-] gurapo@lemmy.pt 5 points 1 month ago

Ahhh I see, that would explain it. I was kinda confused with how little positive comments there appeared to be compared to the sea of hateful ones when clicking the more replies button, but that would explain it - I hadn't thought about it. I've gotta admit though, surprisingly, even after I scroll past the blue checkmarks, although the positive/negative comment ratio is much more in line with my expectations, most comments are nevertheless pretty hateful. Though I guess that can be explain with just twitter being twitter.

Thank you!

[-] GammaGames@beehaw.org 6 points 1 month ago

Definitely agree that it’s still much worse than expected, having those types at the top of every thread makes less hateful folk less likely to reply and ends up pushing them off the platform altogether. Kind of a vicious cycle

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Honestly I wonder if the chuds are trying to coordinate a 'godot-gate' because they have nothing better to do with their lives.

[-] gurapo@lemmy.pt 10 points 1 month ago

To be completely honest, this whole thing seems to have nothing to do with godot at all. These bullies found a target, that's all. I can only assume that once this whole "controversy" dies out, their reaction to godot will be "godot? Wazzat? Never heard of it."

So I don't think anything like a godot-gate will come out of it (assuming a godot-gate would be something like boycotting godot, or campaigning against its use)

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I don't think it'll work, but I don't put it past them for trying.

[-] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I don't understand the outrage either. All the folks screaming at this clearly think inclusivity is bad. It's weird to be on Xitter rn, you feel like you want the reach it gives, but do you really want reach when all you can reach is these hatespewers?

[-] Krrygon 43 points 1 month ago

Very funny, the people who were saying "good luck losing your customers!" Uh, it's FOSS lmao. What customers?

[-] wkk@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Godot definitely has sponsors which while not directly being "customers" are still very important when it comes to financing the development of the engine

Having said that I want to believe current sponsors won't have issues with the Godot Foundation here

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 month ago

Based and godotpilled

[-] clarkvtatum@mastodon.gamedev.place 37 points 1 month ago

@kryllic It is crazy how this non-issue is becoming somekind of controversy. It was posted on that hate-filled site. I am not taking the reaction seriously at all. Godot is awesome and nothing has changed that.

[-] GammaGames@beehaw.org 25 points 1 month ago

That Friday tweet was great 😂 though they were posting it to that cesspool, about the only thing you could expect there is the blue check babies

[-] HyperlinkYourHeart@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Their first mistake was still being on twitter

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I saw a video about all this last night and it was really disheartening how many people are insulting people.

Edit: here's a piped video link to the video. https://piped.video/watch?v=wdeto5kXd40&t=0

And YouTube for the comments https://youtu.be/wdeto5kXd40&t=0

The video itself wasn't great, but it at least seems somewhat impartial. I was really tired and was having a hard time processing what his intentions were as he was going over everything. On top of that, reading the comments at the same time made it even more difficult, since so many are agreeing with the YouTuber but are being so hateful about it. The YouTuber doesn't seem explicitly hateful, but like I said it isn't great. Also, it seems inaccurate now given that the video came out so quickly and the way it was handled by Godot.

That is to say, I'm pretty sure his premise of the video is that Xanax was an official community manager. So again, really not great and yet the comments in support are just... Evil and cruel.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

That tweet was going to bring the trolls out. Why make it in the first place? It's just there to cause drama.

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[-] Kissaki@programming.dev 16 points 1 month ago

It's a statement of support of minorities. I think that's a pretty good, fair reason, and not "just to cause drama".

Not making a statement is letting the original statement stand.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It was some random idiot on the web talking shit. Even worse, it was an idiot on Twitter, the shithole of the internet. There's no need to address them. Most people didn't even know what the context was. Addressing it just gave more "publicity" to them.

It's not even poking the hornet's nest, it's a calling out to a haggle of trolls. Fuck those people. Don't give them attention.

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