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The letter comes as polling within the Muslim American community shows a major departure from the Democratic Party over the Biden-Harris administration's unfettered support for Israel's war on Gaza, which they along with rights groups and legal experts view is a genocide against Palestinians.

The letter calls on Muslims to instead vote for any of the third-party candidates, including the Green Party's Jill Stein whose support has swelled among the Muslim American community in recent weeks.

"We want to be absolutely clear: don’t stay home and skip voting. This year, make a statement by voting third party for the presidential ticket," the letter said.

"Equally important, vote all the way down the ballot for candidates and policies that stand for truth and justice, ensuring your voice is heard at every level."

The letter, written and released in collaboration with the Abandon Harris campaign, was signed by more than three dozen religious leaders from all around the country, including Dawud Walid, Dr Shadee Elmasry, Imam Omar Suleiman, Dr Yasir Qadhi, and Imam Tom Facchine.

The imams who have signed the letter say the calls for Muslims to uncritically support Harris is fear-mongering.

"None of this is an endorsement of Donald Trump's vile, racist agenda, which includes advancing the apartheid and genocidal interests of a foreign state while falsely claiming to put America first," the letter said.

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[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago

The Uncommitted Campaign, a movement that gained media attention for its call to withhold votes from President Biden during the primary elections over the war on Gaza, released a statement earlier this month saying that while it could not officially endorse Harris, voters should not cast their ballot for any other candidate but her.

How's that not an offical endorsement?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

I mean I guess it leaves open the option of not voting.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I guess it could be interpreted like that if someone want it very much, in such case why they didn't said it straight: do what you want.

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[-] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

They don't like her but can admit the current alternative will be much more terrible. They do not want to endorse a "lesser evil." Option A will hurt, option B is likely to take a limb.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago

Incoming hatred of Muslims coming from liberals in 3, 2, 1...

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago

Queue these comments in a minute:

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Always happens.

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[-] Oisteink@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Great win! Taking votes away from kamala surely teaches Donald a lesson

Actually this is a nazi talking point and you should feel bad

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I'd love to see an explanation for that one.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

Arab americans are sick of having their homelands bombed by democrats. The Obama administration for example dropped an average of 60 bombs per day on the middle east and north africa during his presidency.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Let's not even attempt to pretend like republicans are not also responsible, because... ?

What do you think her opponent would do if elected? Pick the lesser evil, damn.

[-] newfie@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

Why isn't there an option to give these Muslim Americans what they actually want?

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

The two party system coupled with first past the post voting, gerrymandering, and corporate interests really fuck over the actual will of the people.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Who started the modern day shit storm in the Middle East? The GOP and the Bush family. You also need to ask the Saudis and Israelis and their involvement to persuade the US politicians into dropping bombs. Do you really think the Christian based Project 2025 will benefit Muslim Americans? Hell no, the GOP will turn the USA into a Christian version of 1979 Iran.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

President Donald Trump and the republican party who are currently running the government are going to learn that their poor foreign policy has electoral consequences.

Everyone should vote for his opponent, Kamala Harris, who is in no shape or form part of the current government. This will show current President Donald Trump and his republican party that they have crossed a red line which nobody will vote for.

[-] VoterFrog@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

It's like the dumbest version of the trolley problem where the tracks are reversed. You could do nothing and people will die. Or you could pull the lever (convince a bunch of people not to vote for Harris) and a lot more people will die but, hey, at least you can say you did something.

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In terms of a bipoloar two party system, you're right, the other party will fuck them hard.

In terms of swaying their main party to listen to their voters or risk losing an election, they did the right thing. You have to make a stand at some point to hold your representatives accountable.

I used to think the best time to do this was once your party was in power, but through sheer osmosis of being on this instance, I'm now of the mind that once they're in power they will have no reason to listen to you, so you might as well strike when their victory is uncertain.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

In terms of swaying their main party to listen to their voters or risk losing an election, they did the right thing. You have to make a stand at some point to hold your representatives accountable.

Yeah, they do. You know when that point is? It's during the motherfucking primary, not the general election!

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

I sure wonder why they didn't vote for the anti-genocide candidate during the highly-contested primary.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

they did do that during the primary, and their concerns were ignored. now the chickens are coming home to roost! I truly hope the strategy of eagerly telling everyone to the left to the party to fuck off works out, but I'm not very confident tbh

[-] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

they did do that during the primary, and their concerns were ignored.

That's called "losing".

Now's the time for those people to suck it up, put on their big kid pants, hold their noses, and not fucking help usher in a fascist dictatorship.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

like I said, hope this strategy works out for you! I'm not confident it will, but I guess we will see.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

The one bringing about the fascist dictatorship is the genocide enthusiast at the helm right now. Alienating voters by being a genocidal monster is on the genocidal monster.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Let's run with your hypothetical. Let's follow it to the logical conclusion... The election is going to come down to swing states, and the only voters that could possibly affect the result are the Muslim voters mentioned above. Magically, nobody else exists or matters. Don't worry about how. If they vote third party, Trump wins, and it's all their fault... That's your scenario.

Except wait. Today isn't Election Day. Harris could do a 180 on her stance this evening. She has the ability to act now to change the future, to get those precious votes, the only votes that matter. But for some reason, she really doesn't do it, she doesn't care... And that's the problem your hypothetical has.

In reality, her campaign staff made their own choices, and they still have the power to adjust course if they feel like it. Or not. Whatever they like. But somehow you think it's the Muslim voters who are in control here.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

and a lot more people will die

Biden is sending in US troops and air support, approved the invasion of Lebanon despite the DoD and Pentagon disapproving, and triggered the Iranian retaliation by lying about a ceasefire. Both the DNC and GOP are genocidal monsters, trying to pretend Trump would somehow be a lot worse than Biden already has been is nonsensical. Both are evil.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

For them the choice is between do they endorse the president who kills and bombs Palestinians or they don't.

It is not between Kamala Harris or Donald Trump. Even they know none of the choices can or will lead to less violence in the middle east.

[-] donescobar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

In the great words of Terrence Howard, an action times an action equals a reaction.

https://youtu.be/-8Rpi47yFZc?si=7HviBC1TRt3-sm5J

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

I guess maybe America can’t mess up the Middle East any worse if it’s busy fighting a civil war.

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