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[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 63 points 4 months ago

Not defending xitter, but that's exactly how it works on lemmy, isn't it? If I block someone I don't see them anymore but they can still see and reply to me.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When I've brought this up with the devs, they have shot it down immediately. Basically, their attitude is that posts are public by default. So hiding them from a blocked user doesn't really do anything.

Of course, that's nonsense. Mastodon does it. It has an incredible chilling effect on harassment.

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago

Oh, I was just making an observation, I'm definitely with you on this, a proper block would be much better,.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

How can you feel harassed if you don't see what a user is replying to you? Unless you pay a lot of attention to usernames...

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

Imagine finding out one day that someone you've blocked for harassment has been following you around and making nasty comments on every single post you made for months, or even leaking personal information. You just didn't know it.

It happens, and even on Lemmy you will have people who will do this (doxing will get a ban but other behaviors may slide under the radar, especiallyif the target doesn't see and report it).

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

I mean... Oh no, someone is being mean "behind my back"?

As for the personal info stuff... Why would they know personal stuff about you in the first place? Don't let people you know know your username on these kinds of websites and don't share personal info you don't want people to know about without a throwaway account?

[-] parpol@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

But instead if blocking means they cant see your posts, can't you talk behind their backs without them ever even knowing about you?

[-] far_university190@feddit.org 5 points 4 months ago

It really not. What if just do not want to see their post, for example because low quality or topic i not like? Block is a post/comment filter for feed, nothing more.

Maybe named wrong if you expect it to be more than it is. But functionality very useful.

Maybe should be able to block post/comment seperate, sound like good idea.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I would argue that there should be a block feature and also a mute feature. What we currently call "block" is actually just a mute.

[-] far_university190@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago

Mute really is better name.

But block would mean activate a feed filter for someone else. Could abuse remote filter activate some way, probably.

It probably also filter on instance side, so if instance of blocked person ignore request to activate block filter, block is useless. And block actually not do anything might confuse people or accuse dev of malice.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Mastodon manages to do it on ActivityPub

[-] far_university190@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago

Then use mastodon. You can post on lemmy community just fine.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As far as I've seen, that's how blocking works on literally everything. You are blocking them from your view. You are not blocking their view of you. It wouldn't matter if it worked the other way, since they could just log out and still see everything.

If you want total banishment, run a chat room or a non-public forum that can't even be entered or read without permission.

[-] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Mastodon (theoretically) does it like this. They can no longer see your posts.

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Reddit says unavailable when you get blocked

[-] chellewalker@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 months ago

"That's how I found my wife!" said divorced man with a restraining order.

[-] Kayana@ttrpg.network 14 points 4 months ago

There are pros to this:

If the person you blocked can't see your posts, they can intuit that you've blocked them. Then, they might try and find you on other social media to harass you even further, or shift targets to someone else.

If they can see your posts, they have no idea they've been blocked, similar to Reddit's shadow bans. This might make them think you're just annoyed or rarely look at your DMs, making them invest even more time to uselessly try to contact you.

Of course, I can see the other side too, that you don't want them to know about any (new) posts you've made; but it isn't as one-sided as you seem to think it is.

[-] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago

I disagree. When they don't see your posts, you might as well have gone silent or just post less frequently so they happen to not see them. Besides: once you follow a certain number of people, you don't track each and everyone of them.

Seeing a post makes you more likely to want to answer them. If that doesn't work (as I understand it), you will notice it and maybe be frustrated about it.

[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Then have two options: block and mute. With mute, users won't know you've muted them, as you've described. With mute, the user would not be able to see your posts.

[-] parpol@programming.dev 14 points 4 months ago

Just like Lemmy.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

If you're still using that service you're part of the problem.

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think this should be default behavior. Countless times, blocking is used to silence disagreement rather than actual harassment. It's used offensively as well: By blocking your political opponents, they can't tell your followers that they're in an echo chamber

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