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I would literally walk out of the dealership
The only reasonable response to walking into a GM dealership
laughing, too
I still don't understand why car brands don't just use Android Automotive anyway. Most native infotainment systems in cars still look and feel like they're from the early 2000s.
That 55-inch interface they're showing off really looks like some weird 2006-ish concept.
Edit: Apparently, it's running "Google built-in" which means that this particular system is based on Android Automotive OS and it's just running some proprietary launcher on top.
I wonder how long before they stop pushing updates to it
That's implying that they'll push updates at all
We all know that the look of the interface will stay the same throughout the lifetime of the car. At least with CarPlay or Android Auto, it represents the interface of your phone. CarPlay is a hard requirement for my vehicles.
Subscription based for a few years z then they'll just drop it
Nissan stopped updating the navigation for my 2016 car last year.
So... Pretty shit
I remember when updates to cars were called product recalls and they only happened in exceptional circumstances.
Y'know what would be great?
An industry standard system that would work properly with any type of phone, tablet or other mobile device.
Preferably one that doesn't run like shit.
And while we're at it, require physical nobs/buttons for basic navigation/climate control for safety purposes.
nobs
This made me laugh more than it should've.
And while we're at it, require physical nobs/buttons for basic navigation/climate control for safety purposes.
AbsoFuckingLutely
Back to Bluetooth and Google maps on your phone after the free data period ends. Such a bad move for consumers.
Give it some time and there will be a guide to replacing the whole thing with a raspberry pi and cheap screen from Ali express.
It will also probably have more functionality and be less awful to use.
Fuck all these proprietary systems with their locked down ecosystems. Its blatantly planned obsolescence and will cause a ton of e waste. But fuck it as long as some shareholder is happy right.
Or, better yet, an alu plate and some soldered switches and knobs
Ladies and gentlemen... FROM the company that brought us "Cadillac CUE" (all-capacitive-buttons information controls)...
...Something nobody wants!
I worked at a Cadillac dealership and I absolutely HATED the cars that had these. Barely functioned in the winter time
Had that in my '17 CTS, the screen did it's normal "I'm in control now" thing of random touch inputs until I finally had enough. Bought an aftermarket screen without the gel layer and replaced it, it was much better than OEM.
55” infotainment screen, in a fucking vehicle? That’s what I have in my living room. 🤯
Lack of AA isn't the problem, it's the 130k for that hideous monstrosity.
No problem, there are other cars to choose from.
We'll, that's a move.
General Motos, you are a bold one.
Call me crazy, but the way the bottom control screen is off centered from the central nav/infotainment bit above it looks horrible and I can't imagine buying such an expensive car with such an annoying design.
Does anyone actually use either of those though? It's always been more easy and convenient for me to just use my own phone.
Eh. I have no CarPlay in my 2016 Prius and the proprietary system they have only makes me almost crash my car 30% of the time I use it so I can't complain.
I'm not sure a lot of you are reading that they are replacing ACP and AA with built in Google apps, including Google maps for navigation; they aren't eliminating the functionality, they are replacing it.
I think I would prefer this over slaving my phone to the car because there are some real annoying things about AA when I try to use it while connected to my car. The only big question is: do they require separate Internet connection or can I use my unlimited data plan phone as a hotspot. Having to pay for more connection services would piss me off, however I read somewhere a few weeks back that connecting to the Internet via a hotspot was supported.
I would happily keep slaving my phone to my car to avoid paying for extra services.
I think we agree on that point, as I started.
I have wireless AA on my Civic and I literally get in the car, turn it on, and my phone connects automatically. It's very convenient. What issues have you run into?
Well, unfortunately I don't have wireless AA, so the cable can sometimes be an issue. Beyond that, they aren't huge issues, but if I need to look something up in maps it won't let me. I know, I'm not supposed to use while driving, but if I'm at a light and I want to do a quick detour search I can't use the handheld (dash interface isn't as easy to use as handheld). The contact search\phone app doesn't work as easily for me and I find the voice search to be spotty.
Like I said not big issues, but mostly just preference; I'd rather have my phone separate and free from restriction as I only use the maps through AA. My phone calls and audiobooks\podcasts we're always fine through Bluetooth.
Fair enough. I do admit, I went through a number of USB cables in a previous car that didn't have wireless. However, I don't really see how restricting access to AA would solve your maps issue. So, rather than not being able to use your phone to look up a detour (which I have done, by unplugging my phone, selecting a new router, then plugging it back in, which isn't great), you now just look up a detour on your phone and then what? Don't use the cars navigation, but rather your phone?
I use a wireless adapter similar to this one. https://blakadder.com/android-auto-wireless-adapter/
I had no idea this existed, thank you so much!
My solution to that is I use Waze for turn by turn navigation on the car screen and then I can pop open Google maps on my phone for the occasional quick search. If I need to update my route then I'll ask Waze to add a stop.
That's a good idea. I should do that. Also, thanks for being someone who understands wanting to search stuff while in the turn by turn mode. It's hard to explain WHY I would need this, but it seems like something I experience at least once a week.
According to ars google maps and assistant are free for 8 years. Everything else they will charge for.
They're both shit, hopefully cadillac will come up with something better
Yeah if there's one thing car companies are great at, it's developing wonderfully intuitive head units/nav units.
🤨🧐
I'm not the target audience for this to begin with, but I refuse to own a car ever again that doesn't have Android Auto. What a bunch of anti-consumer bullshit. What are the odds GM starts charging a subscription fee to access apps on these vehicles?
this post was submitted on 10 Aug 2023
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