Holy shit... This is the first time I've agreed with anything from Saudi Arabia. Who knew basic rights suppressors would be pro consumer lmao.
They’re just following in the EU’s steps in a self-aggrandising move. Everyone knows apple won’t bother with splitting the iphone line and will go with USB-C soon.
Nothing about Saudi Arabia is pro-consumer.
And if you don't use USB-C they'll behead you.
While I agree with the point of these laws, to get everyone on a standard, it's going to suck when the next, better standard comes along and the are all these laws preventing phones from adopting it
The EU has appointed a committee to reconsider the standards every couple of years and the law allows changing the standard if they decide to. I’m not sure how Saoudi Arabia will deal with this.
EU attempted to get smartphone manufacturers to agree on a standard so that law wouldn't be necessary to avoid this scenario. Guess which company didn't want to play with the others?
One of the largest Tech companies in the world, is it Orange?
And they didn't want to do it likely because of the previous comment - what don't you understand?
The original proposal was that companies agree by themselves a common standard to use so that legislation wouldn't be needed. They had their chance to go on without legally forced change but they didn't want to.
Additionally EU has given Apple multiple warnings about not to hinder USB-C functionality like fast charging so that it would only work with their own chargers and cables.
So, they agree to a common standard AFTER Apple has switched to Lightning. These ideas sound so great if you ignore timelines and what really happened when.
The world had subtlety agreed on a different standard (mico usb) when apple decided to do decide to switch to a proprietary one (lightning)
Granted, micro Usb is shit, but switching to a proprietary standard is worse as you force everyone to have something different.
Were lightning not proprietary, I could definitely see it overcomming micro usb everywhere
Oh for sure. If lightning had been opened up to everyone I think we'd all be using it now
This thing has been brewing since 2009 and Apple has been a part of it since beginning but as it was voluntary we've all seen what happened.
I mean, my comment is something to consider, but it's definitely not why Apple doesn't want it lol
it’s going to suck when the next, better standard comes along and the are all these laws preventing phones from adopting it
this argument keeps being trotted out.
Standards can change.
The USB-C protocol allows for future improvements. The spec allows for charging at capacities far higher than exist today, and the connection type so far supports USB3.0, 3.1, 3.2, USB4 and even the unfortunately-named USB4v2.0. The USB-C connection type will still be around for USB5.3v2max SuperSpeed or whatever it's called in 2030.
Governments move really, really slow. How long has USB-C been out? Many years it seems and now it’s being mandated? In my view USB-C is old tech. I like it, don’t get me wrong, but it’s old old.
If you go to any government organization except maybe parts of the military, you’ll find that their tech is outdated and running legacy shit because they have to go through piles of paperwork to change anything.
In my view USB-C is old tech. I like it, don’t get me wrong, but it’s old old.
As long as it works for the next few decades, this isn't anything to worry about.
OK. Now copy all other EU laws.
Yes and then they should jail those who violate basic human rights.
One can dream.
I’m in the minority here, but I don’t think any governments should be regulating the choice of cable in smartphones. I think it’s a convenience that they can dangle in front of people so they can say they are pro-consumer, while ignoring the working conditions of those who manufacture it, the taxes paid by corporations who make the phones, the lobbying done against right-to-repair laws, and the monopolistic tendencies displayed by these companies.
The governments have a real responsibility to hold these companies responsible for a lot of things, but I don’t think the choice of one small piece of the technology pie should be one of them.
If the companies won't do it on their own, they have to be forced. Apple didn't want to play, hence the law.
I think all smartphone companies should pull out of Saudi Arabia until it has better human rights policies.
IMO other countries shouldn't adopt laws like this, the EU and maybe the US should be the only ones, since new standards will take longer to get adopted if every country with this kinda law has to allow it instead of just one or two.
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