The amount of shit a delivery driver puts up with? They certainly deserve it. Good on them, we should all be well paid, and thinking otherwise is Stockholm syndrome.

tech workers: i'm underpaid and everyone else should be too!

fucking unionize already. tired of this crabs-in-a-bucket mentality

Fuck off with this class war baiting bullshit

Ah. The anti-union propaganda has begun to stop the tech industry from unionizing, lol.

They are scared they will and with good reason. A strong union will level the playing field.

As a tech worker, I say good for them.

This is a little misleading. It's $170k in pay and benefits, not just salary. Still, UPS drivers deserve it and this will make everyone's experience with UPS so much better.

"This is disappointing, how is possible that a driver makes much more than average Engineer in R&D?"

Because the engineer is being exploited and refuses to unionize.

"To get a base salary of $170k you know you need to work hard as an Engineer, this sucks."

Bitch, UPS workers work harder than I ever did as an electronics engineer.

As one of the tech workers: fuck yeah, good for them for negotiating well, and getting what they're owed.

I have worked as a driver helper in the past. This pay makes sense. It's a demanding job mentally and physically. With the pay being good it also means people work really hard to get that job and really hard to keep it. Congratulations to them.

I see we are trying to sow some tension between working class people here eh?

I have a pro-driver pro-union UPS placard in my window and a "Unionize Amazon" sticker on my hoodie. I'm happy for UPS workers. They fought and won a much better contract. It's genuinely exciting that there's so much positive union activity in the USA right now.

As a tech worker, I do almost jack shit and make deep into the six figures. Honestly, I'd be fine if UPS drivers made more than me, good on them.

Frankly, in terms of total compensation, pay them more.

Wow good for UPS workers. As a tech worker I can say I'm genuinely happy for them. They have a hard ass job. A win for labor is a win for labor, regardless of which type.

Pushing tens of pounds around in the heat everyday is hard, expecially inside a van without AC.

Let's just hope tech workers will be smart enough to unionize and organize like the UPS Chads did.

Some tech workers on social media

This isn't fucking news! Enough of this dumb ragebait bullshit.

Omg you wouldn't believe, someone on the internet was an asshole!

A UPS driving job is a hell of a lot more difficult and tiring than most tech jobs. It might take less skill, but tech workers don't have to be out in the heat or freezing cold all day carrying heavy loads and dealing with angry people who blame them for a late package or, worse, get shot at for the crime of being in the neighborhood while black.



We all do better when we all do better.

As someone who has only worked freight in an air-conditioned warehouse, moving boxes is not easy work and not many people will be able to do it their whole careers. I'm personally glad I argue with computers for my job now and I have much respect for those lifting things in the elements.

Come on, business insider and "some tech workers"...

The idea is that unions can secure higher wages to show you it can be done. Now both union and non-union drivers can reference UPS for a salary "that reflects increasing industry averages".

Software techbros, if you think you're worth more than UPS drivers, tell your boss. If you think your boss is gonna dismiss you, then get all your co-workers who think you're worth more than 170k then get your boss to hear you out as a group. Did I hear, "you nyan eyes"?

The context is all wrong. It is less money for CEOs, not less for tech workers. Good job teamsters.

They earn every dollar because I would nope the fuck out of there so fast

Complaining about this is dumb. Someone else’s gain isn’t your loss. Everyone outside the top tier earners should be paid more. Period. I’m happy a union had the national stage representing UPS workers and showed why unions are important.

Can we react more about trust fund managers and CxO salaries instead?

As someone in tech who also has a friend that works for UPS, this is amazing for them! Anything that can improve their lives is a win. UPS people who incredibly hard (regardless of how much shit I give my friend when UPS does something silly with my deliveries)

I work in tech and have enjoyed good salaries, I wish everyone was so fortunate.

As for myself, it would actually be a huge relief to know that there are many career options for me that paid just as well, because sometimes I really want to do something else. If wages had grown fairly, then a lot more people would be making 100,000+.

TLDR article prob funded by big corporations wants general public to get triggered by unionized organizations.

Tech workers have no right to be angry. Unionize or shut up. (Excluding all the supportive tech workers, including those in the comments.) Source: am a tech worker

I'm a tech executive... good for UPS workers. That's what unions are for, to balance out investors' demands and get people paid fairly.

As a tech worker for over 25 years, I say good for them.

Hell, if my back, knees and neck weren't already fucked, I'd be damned tempted to start driving for UPS.

I'm already kind of nearing a point where a move away from tech is appealing, but even if I accept the idea of some reduction in pay, I'm at a loss for what I can do that wouldn't see me losing half my income which would just be more than I'd like to bear.

I know someone in his 20s who makes $41 and some change per hour plus $150 per diem...

7 days on and 7 days off...

"Unskilled" coal mine work.

It's pretty damn insulting to be honest as someone who's been in the technology industry for over 25 years when I have to deal with companies and recruiters thinking that my labor is somehow worth less than that.

Hell, I made more than that 18 years ago (and I still do as an hourly without the per diem) but now I get dipshit recruiters emailing and calling me constantly thinking I should be willing to work for $25 an hour or even sometimes less.

It's like I'm living in fucking crazy world.