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Meta's has been listening to some concerns after all especially now after some pressure.

These changes very well could help parents moderate their teens. Meta's head of product says these changes address particular 3 concerns in an Npr interview.

Will this be the end of the complaints and concerns geared towards Instagram, probably not.

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[-] garretble@lemmy.world 94 points 2 months ago

I’m glad nearly every word in this image is highlighted so I’d know what to read.

(I’m just joshin’)

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

HI JUST JOSHIN I'M WOGI

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Seriously what is this crap

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I think it's an AI summary (if you read just the highlighted part)

[-] Rob200@lemmy.autism.place 3 points 1 month ago

It's not an ai summary because if it was the wording would had been different from the article. The content featured in the screenshot is from the article and I manually draw attention to parts I am interested in and also to narrow things down. I started highlighting instead of redacting just so people wouldn't say i'm censoring.

For those who think it's an ai summary idk what to tell you.

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[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 35 points 1 month ago

I'm personally on the fence about this type of stuff. On one hand, yes I 100% agree about actually keeping kids safer online (not like the politicians "Think of the kids!" type of "safety"). On the other I don't want anyone to have to give up privacy by having to confirm their age by sending some form of verification, whether that picture/video of ID with birth date on it or having an AI that will inevitably get so many false positives judge you, just to access a service online.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago

I'm 100% in the second camp. Facebook having my ID is a much bigger issue than having my kids' profile be public. I as a parent can ensure my kids' profiles are acceptable, or mark them as private myself. I can't ensure Facebook deletes my ID after verifying my identity.

Yes, kids should be safer online, and that starts at home. Educate parents and kids about how to stay safe, that's as far as it should go.

[-] domdanial@reddthat.com 6 points 1 month ago

I'm also in the second camp. Plus, censoring the bad words on specific users is a few too many steps closer to don't say gay on the internet. Is ass ok but not fuck? Is sex talk forbidden? All mention of anatomy, including general questions about health? How about they ban anti-capitalist language too? The tiktok language phenomenon shows that users will absolutely just make do getting around communication bans, "unalive" and "le$beans" being the most popular. This type of censorship has already happened on other platforms, and it's all bullshit and useless.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I completely agree. I'm reading a book related to 1984, and all of the thought crime and whatnot it talks about is scarily on-point when it comes to social media censorship. For example, "sex crime" is strictly controlled, and in the same chapter that someone gets taken away for getting pregnant, the MC talks about sexual relationships she has and plans to have. Nobody can talk about love or relationships, yet everyone seems to engage in them, or at least one-night stands. In fact, the word used for "abortion" in that book is "unbirth," which is right there with the term "unalived."

Blocking out a huge part of human culture doesn't help anyone, and it doesn't actually work, because people will find a way. What can work is giving users the tools to hide stuff they don't want to see.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The obvious answer is that Facebook should not be used by anyone, ever. The model is cancer, whatever FB does of value for the user can be accomplished without a social media platform.

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[-] Rob200@lemmy.autism.place 4 points 1 month ago

Anything to prevent getting my i.d in a database, i would actually be ok with using an ai to verify my age by my appearance if it really came down to it and I had to choose legally some form of age verification.

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[-] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago

...as private as an Instagram account can be, anyway.

[-] hdnsmbt@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thank god they're filtering out the bad no-no words! Finally teens won't be using naughty and scary words any longer because forbidding words that make us sad and upset is a sensible and smart thing to do! Fuck these shitty networks policing every aspect of speech with a humongous camel dick!

Also, if everything is highlighted, nothing is highlighted. Be more reasonable with your highlights.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 16 points 2 months ago

As a user of bionic reading, wtf did you do to your text

[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I'm not sure. People are calling it highlighting, but it doesn't fit any reasonable pattern to have been manually highlighted. Is there some sort of bad automated highlighting? Or just someone still learning what highlighting is even used for. Or is it just some sort of style thing?

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[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

They know their network is harmful to teens for years now, I wonder why NOW they are finally doing something about it?

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 4 points 1 month ago

They are not. They just make it look like they care, but nothing actually changes

[-] sag@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

Wait, There are Teens who don't private their accounts? That's wierd.

[-] desktop_user 7 points 1 month ago

the weirder thing is teens using their real identity online at all.

[-] sag@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Agree, I never used my real name anywhere.

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[-] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

They have an account their parents can see and private accounts

[-] Rob200@lemmy.autism.place 4 points 1 month ago

Not really, teenagers naturally want to socialize. It's pretty normal. Is it the best thing? no.

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[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

This has all happened before and it will all happen again. This is what it looks like when a social media company tries to head off an incoming regulatory push.

[-] corroded@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Social media companies, adult websites, whatever, can try to find ways to block children from accessing their content, but kids will always find a way around it.

It's the parents' responsibility to control their children. I've said 1000 times, children don't need access to smartphones and tablets. A desktop PC or laptop with strict parental controls is adequate enough for school work, learning about technology, and some basic entertainment.

When a child is old enough to work and pay for a smartphone themselves, then they're old enough to have a smartphone. A prepaid flip phone with basic voice and SMS is more than enough for a 15-year-old.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

but kids will always find a way around it.

🔄

A desktop PC or laptop with strict parental controls is adequate enough

You made an infinite loop and the process has hung.

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[-] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

Only took them 14 years, lol

[-] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

That's... a good thing. Tzuky? Are you ok?

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Trying to avoid regulations of course.

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[-] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

At least it’s a step in the right direction. Especially since they’ve been extremely evil when it comes to teens. Tho I’m sure they’ll figure out how to continue to be evil with these restrictions/guidelines in place.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

How are they going to identify who are teens?

[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Meta said it was fully expecting many teenagers would try to evade the new measures.

"The more restrictive the experience is, the stronger the theoretical incentive for a teen to try and work around the restriction," Mr Mosseri said.

In response, the company is launching and developing new tools to catch them out.

Instagram already asks for proof of age from teenage users trying to change their listed date of birth to an adult one, and has done since 2022.

Now, as a new measure, if an underage user tries to set up a new Instagram account with an adult date of birth on the same device, the platform will notice and force them to verify their age.

In a statement, the company said it was not sharing all the tools it was using, "because we don't want to give teens an instruction manual".

"So we are working on all these tools, some of them already exist … we need to improve [them] and figure out how to provide protections for those we think are lying about their age," Mr Mosseri said.

The most stubborn category of "age-liars" are underage users who lied about their age at the outset.

But Meta said it was developing AI tools to proactively detect those people by analysing user behaviour, networks and the way they interact with content.

Source.

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