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[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

We need to demand approval choice voting. Every time we hear anything about third parties in this country, we need to use it as a launch pad to tall about approval choice voting

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

You know Democrats are cooked when they start attacking third party voters instead of Trump voters.

Especially now people really start paying attention to the third parties.

[-] papertowels@lemmy.one 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If it's easier to reason with third party voters than trump voters, it seems like the logical thing to do.

EDIT: also worth pointing out the difference between "attacking" trump voters as individuals, because they have proven themselves to truly be deplorable, and "attacking" third party voting as a decision.

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[-] Fox@pawb.social 14 points 4 months ago

These snarky jabs are missing the point. I'm not a major party prodigal son casting a spite vote, I am actually not interested in either of their platforms and want to force them slowly over time to change.

[-] mashbooq@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

That's laudable, but the way to do that is to vote in primaries, not to vote third party in the general election

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[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

There will never be an acceptable time to vote third party according to liberals. Unless you're fine with an infinite state of groveling towards people in power. If we can't even push them left on genocide when it could cost the election, we can't move them left on anything. The status quo is fine for people who have the resources to deal with it and people not effected by Police brutality and other negative effects.

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The way to push them left is to actually push them left—protesting, calling your representatives, donating to campaigns you support, voting for candidates in local primaries where your vote is exponentially more influential, et cetera.

But voting in a presidential election doesn’t push anyone anywhere. For one thing, pushing is a continuous, incremental feedback process, while the outcome of a presidential election is a discrete binary one—there’s no map between the two. But more significantly, this buys into a narrative that the media has constructed over the past few generations, in which voting is a semiotic process with the people signaling their desires with their votes and politicians signaling their response with legislation. This leaves the media in full control of the political process by interpreting for each side what the other “means”: because the votes and bills in themselves are devoid of meaning beyond their real effects, the media is free to insert whatever meaning suits them.

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[-] index@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

The parties are already there or you couldn't vote them, this example is stupid. Supporting parties with blood in their hands is endorsing evil.

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[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Why do you care if the person you voted for wins?

Outside of "not letting the other person win", you should vote for who you align with, or who represents you best.

If more people stopped caring about voting for "the viable candidate", we'd probably see a third party in American politics...

[-] booly@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago

Why do you care if the person you voted for wins?

Because it's an election with consequences, not an online fandom.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Because it’s an election with consequences, not an online fandom.

Not to most of these people pushing third-parties.

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[-] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago

no it isn't.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And even if the candidate wins, then what? They have no say in Congress. It's the House of Reps and the Senate that passes legislation. Your new third party candidate can only choose to sign or to veto bills passed by the House and Senate.

Beau on it https://youtu.be/-KX8xddKfeM

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[-] nednobbins@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

It kinda looks like your arguing that voting doesn’t work.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 12 points 4 months ago

Ignoring tactical voting doesn't work

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