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Boomers: have more kids! we need the workforce
Boomers: all those taxes that made our families possible - nah fuck that. Keep the minimum wage locked for 15 years.
15 more years.
Also Boomers, "Minimum wage was never meant to be a living wage."
And yet, the person who created literally said it was.
Ok then let's change it to be so? Do we want people to do those jobs or not?
You used to be able to buy an entire house, pay the mortgage, support a small family, and still have minimal left over. One salary. Companies used to reward loyalty more than they do so you didn't need to job hop to get anywhere. Universities were affordable, like you could work any job and pay for the semester from that.
Someone more familiar with the economic conditions correct me if I am wrong. Boomers could afford to live because venture capitalists weren't extracting all the value from the economy to buy yachts.
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Sure, in fact, I'm about to have a kid very soon.
Oh wow great. You know what it'll be yet?
Well of course, they'll be a wage slave, just like their parents.
Many people my age have terrible boomer parents who just had kids because "that's just what you do". They didn't even consider you could just not make babies.
Maybe we just think more for ourselves than the older generation.
Right??? My siblings have an 18 year span, I'll be 38 when the youngest graduates highschool. I feel like I already have kids, I'm doing so much emotional and financial support for these ones
Worse in my case, I had the sort of parents who thought that more was better at any cost. My childhood really sucked.
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Also, *gestures wildly around themself* look at the state the world is in. Which sane person would want to bring a child into this fucked up world?
Well, you and similar people know the world is fucked up, but there's a lot more people out there swimming in the ignorance of simply believing everything is fine or that the people raising problems are catastrophising and that everything will somehow work out.
Those people will keep having kids even if basically every sign pointed to the certainty of that kid's life ending early during some kind of traumatic existential struggle.
There's just a percentage of society who simply don't put in much thought beyond their immediate existence and future. That's almost definitely bad in the grand scheme of things, but I guess on the flip side, they potentially live happier lives in ignorance before getting blipped out of existence.
I mean, 50% of humanity doesn't have an inner monologue- they're essentially just moving from one impulse to another.
Half of everyone. There's no chance for this species without radical change.
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For me it's the climate - no point in bringing a child in a world with a society that will inevitably collapse and a possible world war over land that's still inhabitable.
Adoption maybe - but for me more children only equal more future suffering - and if not for my children because it'll be somehow possible to shield them from the worst then for a couple of others that have to suffer in exchange when western countries pull up the drawbridge and let the global south deal with the mess they made for those countries...
We won't have kids because, despite doing everything right, despite working hard, we're struggling with finances. Kids wouldn't be affordable without an extra job, and most of work two already!
This, but also if it’s this bad for me, why would I create more people to partake?
I have some kids and it’s incredibly bittersweet listening to them talk about the little art and music they create. They talk about painting pictures and making songs, being able to live in a nice house while doing that for a living.
Nope, have to be STEM, a nurse, a teacher, or learn a trade, kiddo. All those other degrees are fucking worthless and won’t get you a decent job.
Teacher isn't going to make them much money and most don't last more than 6 years.
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When we grew up wondering how we would address overpopulation, impoverishment wasn't something we had in mind.
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Not having kids is one of the biggest middle fingers to the capitalist machine. Take away their wage slaves and lets see how much good their money will do the rich.
All these conspiracy theories about how the elites want to reduce the world population have always been nonsense. If you look, all the most vocal ones have been promoting population growth and when you look at history, downward population trends have only increased the common person's rights. They want a surplus of people so we fight amongst ourselves.
I’m a millennial… aren’t we a bit old for this shit anyway?
We're going to be retiring soon, some of the older millennials, and they're still going to be telling us to have more kids lol.
As a Class of 2000, aka OG Millennial, wtf are you talking about?
We're in our early 40s.
That’s what I’m saying! Too old. Did you know the medical term for a pregnancy after 35 is geriatric pregnancy? Ya bro, we’re getting committed to the old folks home soon here, you and I.
Old folks home playing nothing but My Chemical Romance and Dr Dre + Eminem
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Unless you're talking about FIRE, no: the oldest millennials are in their early 40s and have two decades to go before traditional retirement age.
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Maybe if our leaders created a society more conducive to having kids more people would have them.
Well it's 3 things for me:
- Too expensive
- Don't think I'd make a good dad, especially since:
- I really don't like children.
I'm not an antinatalist, though. I think we can still improve our situation, so I don't agree with choosing to not have children, because of the current state of the world, or because of fear it'll become too extreme. I guess it's possible you just want to wait to see if it gets any better, but personally speaking, if I were to have children, I'd choose to do so before I was 40. It isn't enjoyable for the child, for them to be born much later than that.
Part of my problem is i can't even find trustworthy relationships. Everyone is addicted to hook up culture and finding their next partner on their phone. I've even had people claim I'm sexist because I'd want my partner to remain sober during their pregnancy (I'd be willing to stay sober with them the entire time as well).
Ummm...those people are absolutely not people who should be having children anyhow so I guess you're dodging a while bunch of Bullets?
I'm trying to understand who you hurt with your comment to get downvoted like that. I 100% agree with you and even for those who don't, not drinking during pregnancy is an absolute must if you don't want to fuck up your child's health for life...
As for not wanting to be part of the hookup culture is totally a valid personal choice. What's wrong with that?
Just guessing but "everyone is addicted to hookup culture" could come off a bit vaguely incel or the problem is everyone else, nothing wrong with me.
Personally I have several friends & family members, who met their significant other through one "hookup app" or another. Most of them are married and have children nowadays, and are seemingly in very loving and caring relationships.
Don't get me wrong, datings sucks or rather I sucked at it; on top of that the scene could be even worse than it used to be. But you know, Michael Jackson told us all to start by asking the man in the mirror, to make that change.
For me it's more about not subjecting a person to my own residual trauma and a society that's accelerating towards self-annihilation
I wonder how many won't have any due to the Weimar conditions in America or the looming climate apocalypse. In combination with financial issues I assume it is huge.
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I guess we'll all just be childless cat ladies.
Man, I just hate children and want none of that. A dog is enough responsibility for me
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i see nightmares that i can't take care of my pets. a kid would destroy me, not just financially.
Kids are crushingly expensive in their early years... if you want to have a career at the same time...
I'd love to have kids, but I don't feel like I can afford it, even though I make better money than many.
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