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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Coskii to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

I mean.. In-N-Out burger at #2.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

In-N-Out Burger takes second spot, driven largely by its competitive compensation and career growth opportunities. On average, store managers at the iconic California chain make $180,000 in salary, roughly three times the industry average. Like Delta, the company offers profit-sharing plans.

What's bad about it?

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

No fresh college grad is being hired directly as a store manager, though. I'd also argue that there is effectively no ladder to advance from a run-of-the-mill burger shop employee making close to minimum wage to a management position.

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

There are absolutely trainee to mgmt programs aimed at college grads -- I did one with EMC before their acquisition.

I'm not saying In and Out Burger has one, but it's a common industry practice, esp. in niche markets.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago
  1. People work jobs while in college.

  2. That's a baseless assumption

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But if you're still in college you're not a "fresh college grad". And you're certainly not going to be working a full-time manager position while attending classes either.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Obviously....

But you can work there as a student, and get promoted to a manager when you graduate.

I really thought that was obvious, and no one would think I meant a college student got a job as manager and worked full time...

But here we are, and at least 7 other idiots agreed with you.

It is what is.

[-] Ferris@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

? some companies see that you have a degree and hire you as a manager. i've had ~19 managers like that over ten years.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

That bullshit and that might be true for managers working in California today. But bet you no new employee will work there way to that now.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

On the plus side, you could feel bad about yourself because you have no idea what's real and are making baseless assumptions...

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/california-in-and-out-salary-SRCH_IL.0,10_IS2280_KO11,21.htm

But facts don't seem to matter, you have an opinion you formed after reading a social media website, so you insist your opinion is right even tho it takes literally 2 minutes these days to find statistics so you would actually find the right answer.

But hey, this worked too!

You were so fucking wrong that I spared the two minutes to do what you wouldn't. But even I know if you click that link, you won't read it.

You'll misunderstand something it says, declare it proves you right, then shit on the checkerboard and declare yourself a winner

The fuck is wrong with people these days?

Did no one actually teach you how to use the Internet to find something out?

[-] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

"Ur wrong lmao, source: because I felt it in my heart"

Are you actually willing to take that bet? That no employee hired within the past 5 years will ever make a comfortable salary working for the In-N-Out corporation? I want the cash value you are willing to lose for this claim written down before we proceed.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Working at a fast-food restaurant obviously isn't a "real" job! At least nobody "smart" works there! Those types of jobs are just for the lower caste of society and unbecoming of a college graduate!

But seriously, we all need to treat fast-food workers better, as well as any other "unskilled" job. The idea that they're meant to be bad jobs is what keeps them bad jobs. There should be nothing wrong with a college graduate working any job full-time. Just because a cashier isn't going to use calculus to do their job doesn't mean anyone who took a math course is overqualified. Everyone being well educated makes society better.

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

There should be a fast food union

[-] Coskii 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'll admit, I saw the numbers on the right side and assumed they were annual salary before actually waking up enough to read it.

[-] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

Bro what?? In N Out burger is one of the best employers in the nation and are repeatedly recognized for their absurdly rare good treatment of employees. They're one of the only businesses in that industry that focus on employee retention and career growth.

You really out here bashing the guy living his best life, making ends meet with minimal effort and maximum efficiency, under one of the best employers in the US, just because burger flipping "isn't a skill and can teach nothing".

[-] Coskii 6 points 2 months ago

Take a step back and realize it the other way around. A burger chain is the SECOND BEST EMPLOYER by study of 400 companies, likely including many of the fortune 500. The issue isn't that it's a burger place, that in and of itself really shows how dystopian how the rest of the pool is. It's not in spite of In-N-Out, it's In-N-Out showing what employment should mean. If a burger chain can do it.. why can't... everyone?

[-] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

I agree with the sentiment, and understand completely what you're trying to say. But I digress, because the lack of logic in this sorry excuse for an argument has to be dealt with.

So along with insulting me by assuming that I didn't click on the link and was unable to figure out that In-N-Out was in the second position in that list, you are also trying to imply that the a burger place doesn't belong on a list of 400 companies that are good to work for, simply because it's a burger join. Simultaneously we must assume that being a burger joint is irrelevant, while ending the statement with the implication being that anyone can be a good employer if a lowly burger joint can figure it out.

Is the argument that a business built around the production and sale of hamburgers appearing on a list of good companies is a bad thing? Cuz that's what the words say, it I don't think that's what you are trying to communicate.

[-] Coskii 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sorry if any of that was insulting, it wasn't meant that way it's just that a relatively small regional business being as high on the list as it is quite an outlier. The international mega corporations should be able to use their resources to gain collective bargaining agreements for their employees benefit packages. job opportunities, etc. that should at the very least rival that of what a company making significantly less annually can manage.

Comparing the profit of In-N-Out in 2023 (545mil) to the profit of on the giants like Microsoft (72.7bil).. it just doesn't make sense that a company profiting that much more with 'only' 5x more workers can't even breach the top 10 of the listing. That's the dystopian part of this. At least Google was in the top 10, but the ratio there is even worse.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

"ew, burger flipping?" Some elitism going on with this post.

This isn't a list of random places - it's literally the best places to work in the country. Have you ever known anyone who works at In-n-Out? I've known 3 and they all loved working there. They were treated like adults, not teenagers or kids. And they were compensated far better than any other food industry job a grad can get after graduating.

Work is work, give them some respect.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Pretty sure the issue is a college graduate with degrees working anywhere in retail or restaurants as the best thing they could hope for.

[-] Coskii 2 points 2 months ago

The thing that shocked me is that a regional burger joint is out performing the worlds most influential, giant corporations that basically rule over nearly every aspect of our daily lives in many ways. The dystopia here is not that burger flipping shouldn't pay a living wage, it's that if you can get the benefits In-N-Out gives as a relatively small regional burger joint.. gosh those giant bloated corporations sure are dystopian.

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