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[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 35 points 10 months ago

$ poweroff

kernel panics for some reason

have to use the power switch anyway

Such is life when using Linux on a laptop.

[-] denast@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've recently had so many random freezes of the system, hangs on shutdown, panics on shutdown, freezes in system updates, that hard reset became a thing I did several times a day. Yet there were no systemd logs, nothing in dmesg, literally zero information on what happened.

I was skeptical in blaming Nvidia because at this point it became a Linux chiche, but then I started to switch to integrated graphics (disabling dGPU) and all of the problems miraculously went away.

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

Yet there were no systemd logs, nothing in dmesg, literally zero information on what happened.

this is pretty typical for hard crashes, ur system is so unbelievably fucked up that it can't even write to journal, and if it could, it wouldn't be persisted anyway (hard shutdown)

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 6 points 10 months ago

Same. I use nVidia on Wayland, and experience more crashes and panics than when using the iGPU. With older versions of the driver, I could consistently trigger a crash when exiting an app which used the discrete GPU (such as Steam), or by switching between a game and Firefox.

[-] ashaman2007@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

NVIDIA definitely has stability issues, newest drivers still kernel panic on resume from suspend. Only thing more you can do is try to capture debug logs with nvidia-bug-report.sh (I go in during a crash via SSH, usually the system is still responsive for a little while after), and post it to the NVIDIA Linux forums. They do actually seem to use the feedback there, NVIDIA reps respond from time to time and say they've submitted bug reports from the feedback. Otherwise, after that yeah you just do what you have to do for a usable system and wait...

[-] jrgn@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Had this issue for ages. Ditched Nvidia a month ago and now everything just works.

[-] Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 months ago

Yeah, lol. One of the reasons my next laptop will be one intended with linux support for the start.

[-] halvar@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago

Why does that even happen?

[-] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The kernel is cleaning the corpses out of the basement freezer chest before the power goes out and stinks up the place.

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Leave the poor kernel out of it, it has nothing to do with this. It's Lennart, not Linus.

[-] Cooljimy84@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Unmounting CIFS , 1:30 timeout ! I just wannatgo to bed....

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 9 points 10 months ago

I was glad my server did this the other day to make sure the data Lemmy put into my database is secure.

[-] RustyNova@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

The culprit often filesystem sync for me...

[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Yes. Mounted network drives.

I think a lot of the shutdown hang problems went away when i switched to systemd automount

[-] RustyNova@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

It isn't those for me tho. It's just BTRFS that like to hang. Auto scrub going? Hang. Auto balance? Hang. Time shift/urbackup doing back up things? Let's hang!

[-] DeltaWingDragon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Still faster than Windows

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