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[-] kenkenken@fedia.io 188 points 2 months ago
[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 2 months ago

Microsoft confirms it's just a bug.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 143 points 2 months ago

The fact that they won't allow users to uninstall it should suggest some things about their motives.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 140 points 2 months ago

The jokes are becoming reality, I swear...

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 99 points 2 months ago

It's just too easy to dunk on MS these days. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

[-] don@lemm.ee 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Twice. At point blank range. To the back of the head. With an elephant gun.

[-] msage@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

Or a mortar. Point blank.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 80 points 2 months ago

it's not for the end user, it's for the end user's boss who wants to monitor all their worker drones' productivity

[-] kbal@fedia.io 60 points 2 months ago

It's not for the end user's boss, it's there to collect data for the future Microsoft user behaviour analysis tools that will be sold to the end user's boss's boss.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 43 points 2 months ago

it can be for 2 things

but it's definitely not for the benefit of anyone who's forced to use it

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago

Why measure performance metrics in terms of output when we can just 1984 everyone’s workstation.

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[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

They have better tools for that.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 months ago

office boss using tools LOL good one

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Hey, Steve and Drake are some of the bosses favorite tools!

[-] TotalCasual@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago
[-] pyre@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

not until Linux bros find a way to appeal to newcomers. being curious about Linux is the worst user experience anyone will ever have about any tech related issue.

[-] buttfarts@lemy.lol 26 points 2 months ago

You aren't trying to suggest that experienced Linux users are a bunch of arrogant fart-sniffing a-holes who expressly enjoy gate-keeping inexperienced users by being as condescending and unhelpful as possible?

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I tried talking about how absolutely horrendous their behaviour was recently, pointing out how completely unhinged and self-defeating it is, and someone actually literally said that this was a good thing because Linux is hard work and they should keep away people that aren't experts.

And first of all, if that's right it's an admission that linux will never succeed, and secondly I agree that's the effect but I think that's bad actually.

I honestly think there must be at least some amount of psyops in the community poisoning the discourse for everyone.

[-] buttfarts@lemy.lol 28 points 2 months ago

Microsoft running psyops to keep the Linux community as toxic as possible

[-] overload@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Omg it really feels like that sometimes.

The youtubers who paint Linux as extremely unstable/not appropriate for gaming almost come across as sponsored by Microsoft. (Not to mention the overemphasis of the ubiquity of adobe suite users i.e. confirmation bias)

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[-] Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 months ago

I just came from another post where the user said they would love to switch from Windows and just needed someone to explain how to do it with a list of features and programs they always use and asking what the Linux equivalent would be.

They made the mistake of saying they needed Outlook for work and there was a commenter that basically said that that person was never going to like Linux and they needed to stay far away from it because the user “painted themselves into a corner.” The commenter even took the time to call it “Micro$oft” lol

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Micro$oft

I dislike Microsoft and basically everything they've done with Windows post-7. Every machine I own that isn't expressly for gaming is running Linux, and one of the two that are for gaming is also running Linux. When I build a new gaming tower to replace my current Windows one it will also run Linux, I just can't be bothered to switch OSes mid-way.

And yet people using childish denigrating nicknames like this immediately makes me disinclined to engage with the conversation. I don't understand how anyone expects to be taken seriously while throwing around schoolyard-grade name-calling like this.

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[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Need to pair it with a stable, easy to use distribution and some good marketing and hardware too. At the end of the day, most people don’t want to spend their weekends scouring forums to understand how to fix some OS issue with a series of terminal commands.

[-] Noedel@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

This is my life right now.

I put Linux on my HP laptop...

Speakers give weird sound Media keys don't work Worst of all: ever since I updated the laptop somehow crashes my router? Like, I don't even know how this is possible, but it's happening.

I'm not an idiot but all the solutions to getting these seemingly basic things to work as intended are extremely contrived.

[-] 31337@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

The problem is that HP writes drivers and software for those things for Windows, but not for Linux, so Linux depends on random people to write software for those things for free (which often involves complex reverse-engineering). With Linux you need to make sure you use widely-used hardware that someone has already written support for (this is mostly applicable to laptops and peripherals, which often use custom non-standard hardware). There may be a way to fix your problems, but you'll have to search forums or issue trackers for the solutions, and they're probably pretty involved to get working correctly. The router crashing thing is probably just a coincidence though, or the laptop is using a feature that's broken on your router.

[-] Noedel@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Yes I completely understand that. But it also undermines the "give your older laptop a new life with Linux" narrative that's out there at times. It's actually not that easy. I'm happy running Linux but I wouldn't put it on my moms old laptop..

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[-] Moah 17 points 2 months ago

And has been for the last 30 years

[-] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 69 points 2 months ago

User choice is an accident. Got it.

[-] ulkesh@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago

That’s okay, I hit the Windows uninstall button back in April. It’s been quite nice ever since!

[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 28 points 2 months ago

...but was it the "Windows Uninstall" button...or the "format /dev/sda1 as ext4" button?

[-] ulkesh@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

Nah I used the btrfs button

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Mmm, butter... :)

Love me some btrfs, the snapshots have saved me a few times already...

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[-] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago

Is called “Windows” because they are always looking in at you. I have been on Linux since they announced recall, and their fucking one drive kept secretly uploading my desktop files! (Kept seeing sync icons, even with all that disabled). Since then I now have my wife, uncle, dad, friends, etc all running Linux now.

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 16 points 2 months ago

How? I have been trying to switch people to linux for over a year and failing

[-] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I gave them laptops, Linux mint pre-installed. I used to buy auction lots of broken laptops, so I got them for like $10 each. Threw in an SSD. It works as fast as a new machine for browsing the web and watching YouTube. I also pre-installed some common programs to get them started.

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[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Just give up on any productivity software. And any specialty software unrelated to programming. And games.

Source: programmer that uses Linux daily.

[-] zaphodb2002@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Gaming on Linux is pretty good nowadays. I've only run into one or two games I couldn't get working. The vast majority of games work with Proton right out of the box

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[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

My reason was being that I couldn't get HDR to work properly in KDE 6 plasma. Also 90% of the features from my graphics card that I use on a daily basis are missing in Linux.

If I didn't have cutting-edge hardware paired with an Nvidia GPU, I would have already switched by now. I build a new PC once every decade, so I'll check back in about 3-5 years once my hardware has aged enough that people are writing proper drivers for it that goes beyond the bare-bones featureset.

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago

But... But they got the good press of "at least you can uninstall". I hope whoever said that starts a bigger shit storm now.

[-] style99@lemm.ee 28 points 2 months ago

Microsoft says it remains on track to preview Recall with Windows Insiders on Copilot Plus PCs in October, after the company has had more time to make major changes to Recall.

Just in time for Halloween. That'll be sure to give people a good scare.

[-] raynethackery@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

How will this work at an enterprise level? I can absolutely say that the company I work for cannot allow that kind of information to be harvested. Our clients would have a conniption. I also can't see our cyber security insurance covering that.

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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 21 points 2 months ago

Altogether now children "It's a bug until...it's a feature!"

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

I don't get it. People riot over less. Why is there not more ire, anger, and vitriol online?

[-] HC4L@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

It's very carefully being shoved in by touching the waters and seeing how far they can go. The first few times there is outrage but after a while people get tired, miss that it is happening or simply don't understand what it's about. The changes aren't that big but as a whole work towards something nobody wants. Same as with a lot of laws and / or social changes.

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[-] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 2 months ago

People riot

It depends on the country, I'd say.

over less

What is "less" for you?

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

I rioted once when I stubbed my toe. It was on a new Ikea bed which was a pain to put together, and the fact that it continued to cause me pain just set me over the edge. I went right down to the harbour and threw everything into the water, because let Posidon deal with it, only the bed got me back because I picked the wrong crates, I chucked my tea into the water instead. I was sad. It was 1772

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

How could that even happen? It was either never intended to ship outside of the User Experience Package alongside actual system apps or it was intended to be capable of being uninstalled during development.

Sounds like the employees did a little insubordination, good job employee we love you.

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