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[-] woop_woop@lemmy.world 159 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Who notices that someone is better at mounting tvs? How does one notice this? What is this made up scenario?

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 98 points 3 months ago

Besides watching someone to try to learn, craftsmen can just goon over other's works.

At a job once updating some central lighting control there were some awesome rooms some (probably long retired) electrician had planned and installed. man that shit was so clean. Another time me n another guy were 'mirin this single ¾ conduit bend for 5 minutes.

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 66 points 3 months ago

This isn't exactly 100% relevant to your story, but it is related and an anecdote I enjoy sharing.

I recently moved to a small town and hired an electrician to make some changes to my house. After showing him around the house, we went to look at the fuse box to determine what changes could be made.

As we were looking, he said "I know those fuses are original." When I asked how, he pointed at the labels and said "because that's my father's handwriting."

Kinda cool to have a legacy like that. The electrician did do good work, so far as I can tell, so it was likely earned as well.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

"because they're fuses instead of breakers"

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Ah yes, that's my fault; my house isn't new, but it's not old enough to use fuses, original or otherwise.

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[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

Another similar example would be guys who look at a picture of a server rack and go "Hnnnng, look at that cable management ohmygod how!?"

[-] woop_woop@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That didn't involve you learning how someone can hang tvs better than you on Facebook. Having hung a TV or two in my day, I don't know how one can learn to respect another's ability there based on social media

Quick edit: I'm also super annoyed at op to tie it to 'positive masculinity' while describing the quintessential male trait - they like teaching or displaying their abilities. Go grill or work on cars with a group of men and see what happens. It's a fucking trope. This nonsense wholesome schtick is gross.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don’t know how one can learn to respect another’s ability there based on social media

Well i haven't used Facebook in a long time but i have seen (both through reading accounts on social media and a few guys personally that use Facebook successfully for their side-work. Facebook gets like 2B eyeballs daily (if not our 4)

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edit: I’m also super annoyed at op to tie it to ‘positive masculinity’ while describing the quintessential male trait - they like teaching or displaying their abilities

But toxic masculinity is definitely not asking others for help. as a tradesperson i can speak to the fear of outting myself to ridicule if i all for help. Not just me either, I've seen whole days of work wasted cuz guys are afraid to ask. I don't of it's all jobs but Construction definitely be that way.

Op reached out even so and got help instead of ridicule and are now partners instead of competitors. Like what's not to like here?

[-] Benjaben@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Can't forget the fun flip side too, where some guys who know a lot are unwilling to share, because they (being fuckin cowards) feel it's necessary to protect their job security by being the only one who knows how to do certain things.

Or! The guys who know how to do things - have decided they hate doing some of those things (usually for good reason in my experience) - and therefore pretend they don't know how to do them. I kinda sympathize with this one sometimes.

But yeah, "likes to teach" as the toxic trait? Anyone who thinks that is the toxic version of knowledge sharing is kinda just revealing how little time they've actually spent around men.

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[-] ggppjj@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I've been contemplating sending a business rival a bottle of whiskey for proper capatilization on the word "FastLane" as well as strict adherence to correct PLU usage in the face of absurd custom store-level PLUs, 100% get it.

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[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 46 points 3 months ago

Professional handymen, electronics installers, contractors, people who do this kind of thing for a living.

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 16 points 3 months ago

I'm one of those. Anyone else think it looks a tiny bit higher on the right hand side? Lol

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[-] DasAlbatross@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago

Better work with the cabling, perhaps. In this picture you can see that there's a new work box in the drywall so he's running hidden cables. There could be drywall patching or he's really good at making the holes so there doesn't need to be patching.

He could do more types of mounts than this guy is used to.

He could be faster.

Is that you're completely unimaginative so you can't come up with ways someone might be better or do you have so little respect for trades that you think there can't be skill involved?

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[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 months ago

Pros notice tiny details that most people don't even think of.

Maybe they did the job 5 minutes faster or the mount job just looks cleaner than yours.

[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

One example: Check the screws on your electric outlet/light switch faceplates. If the screws are aligned, your electrician gave a shit about their work

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 18 points 3 months ago

I see it all the time.

Like someone shares a photo their desk and their setup is so slick. Or someone shows off their kitchen. Those are things I like a lot and want to improve. So rather than scroll past, or leave a hater response, I ask questions to pick up what they're dropping. You can try that.

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[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

Why would you hate on that guy.

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[-] ech@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago

Just because you don't do something doesn't mean nobody does. Maybe don't assume something is made up just because you're unfamiliar with it.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 months ago

Advertisement for whatever slrpnk dot net is trying to sell?

I definitely have friends who I know are a lot better at this kind of stuff than I am (mostly because they get less anxious over what happens if they screw up but...). I have never seen a difference once the tv is mounted because... you can't see the fricking mount once the TV is mounted.

I dunno. I also kind of have problems with the underlying premise too. Yes, toxic masculinity is a massive problem and people very much do not realize how few "male role models" there are for kids who aren't bald human traffickers and the people who sniff their chairs. But "Hey dude, I see you are a super masculine strong man with a bubble level" is not the answer.

The answer is to teach kids they don't NEED role models that fit the same gender roles they do (or, more often, their parents think they should). An athlete is an athlete and a smart person is a smart person. Same with being "handy". This is a lesson girls/"girls" were forced to learn long ago and is one boys/"boys" would benefit from. Because then you don't need to say "Well, I like what this person is saying but they have the wrong genitalia and aren't muscular enough".

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 months ago

What you see isn't the issue with proper mounting, its what you don't.

Leveling, positioning for cable pathways/junction box positioning/planning, heights for good viewing, proper blocking for support, so on. And someone who foes this for a living is going to notice.

And slrpnk.net, the Lemmy instance, is about working towards a sustainable future (solarpunk concept), so that's the only thing that instance is selling is a climate friendly future. Well worth checking out some of the great communities on there.

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[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

That's another lemmy instance.

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[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 108 points 3 months ago

My step-brother and I weren't family until a decade ago. He goes into incel mode and projects his insecurity by hating on everybody.

But today, he shared this with me about something he wants to get better at as he was getting tired of being angry all the time.

So hopefully this message gets across to more people.

[-] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 78 points 3 months ago

True kings fix each other's crowns.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 months ago

I like this a lot. Thank you king.

[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 41 points 3 months ago

I had a plumber once, older guy, who was really eager to teach somebody the trade. He "made" me do half the work and I didn't even mind because I learned how to do a lot of shit I didn't know how to do before.

Be coachable in life and you will be surprised the info you can get from qualified people for free.

Also if you are handy you always have a fallback job if your 9 to 5 shitcans you unexpectedly.

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[-] Emotet@slrpnk.net 39 points 3 months ago

Nice message, but the thought of the existence of a competitive scene of contractors specializing in mounting TVs is hilarious. Also, that mounting plate is crooked af.

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago

He didn't say he was any good, just better

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

My workplace has been going through some remodeling and I've been spending time shooting the breeze with the electricians especially, and they will spend countless hours giving their opinions on the work of the previous contractors!

The type of conduit used vs what they would have run, the number of cuts and fittings used, etc. They tell me about going into the local Walmart and judging the wire runs there. I have no doubt the residential ones are judging people's TV installs when they're in someone's house! 😆

It seems like healthy fun though, I've never seen anyone actually say anything real negative. Now when they mention the carpenters paying no mind to how the electrical will need to go, then that's where it gets dirty!

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[-] Xttweaponttx@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 months ago

All these people in the comments complaining that the bar isn't level when the picture is just taken from a slight side angle? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ literal perspective problem 😂

Also people being like "lol no such thing as a TV-bar-hanger-contractor"..... Audio/video contractors of course do this??? Like, who said its the only thing their job entails?? 😂

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[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 months ago

That bar is not straight i hate it.

[-] Xyre@lemmus.org 22 points 3 months ago

Or if it's anything like some of the places I've lived, it's straight but the walls aren't...

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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 20 points 3 months ago

Poss optical illusion from camera angle, also poss irrelevant once the display is in front of it.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
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[-] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago

Imagine how much more common this positive vibe would be if people wouldn’t need to spend at least 1/3 of their life trying to meet ends in competitive environment

[-] akakunai@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 months ago

r/tvtoohigh

[-] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago

I think asking is the part that's hard to work on. Most people love to help eachother out, but the "self sufficiency" mindset holds is back from asking eachother.

Two Kings in that post!

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[-] plz1@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Can't tell if that mount is way off-level or not. Based on the floor moulding, it looks like it's lower on the left than right. OCD = triggered

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

He's calculated the precise amount the house will settle so that the TV is level in the end. THAT's how good he is.

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[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 10 points 3 months ago

Weird that someone could see someone being better than them at something so their first thought is to "hate on them" rather than respecting them

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[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

It's not terribly active but there's !mensliberation@lemmy.ca

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