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submitted 10 months ago by Jac_rabbit@lemmy.ca to c/alberta@lemmy.ca
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[-] Jac_rabbit@lemmy.ca 43 points 10 months ago

I hate how we are sleep walking towards privatized health care. And to do it via faith based health care is just disgusting.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Couldn't care less. We've been paying though the nose to die on waiting lists.

[-] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago

That's also the 40 years of conservative goverments fault, you should very much care that the long term plan to privatize Healthcare and fleece the public for every penny they can is finally coming to fruition.

Albertans are proudly and stupidly giving up more and more rights as Canadians everyday, hellbent on burning away every hard earned penny to con artists.

Can't stop em though, the whole system has been carefully paved to streamline idiots into handing their hard earned money over to snakes proudly and intentionally.

SMH

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

I'm tired of paying more for less. I travel a lot. Despite all the propaganda, the Americans amd Mexicans have much better systems.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago

For people rich enough to be covered, that's the part you're missing in that simplified analysis.

Funny how we're looking at the countries with the most equality and where people are the happiest and our reaction is "How about we move in the opposite direction instead?"

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[-] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

You unironically thinks the US has a better Healthcare system than us?

Cringe.

[-] GameGod@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago

I’m tired of paying more for less

You're completely mistaken if you think the US model is the solution - you have it completely backwards. The US has one of the highest healthcare costs in the world with WORSE healthcare outcomes. They have the highest spending per capita in the OECD. Also, higher mortality at birth, lower life expectancy, etc. In no uncertain terms, the US pays more for less, and this has been extensively studied and is why any sane government wants to avoid that model.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Extensively studied by governmemt propaganda outfits while Canadians that don't want to die raise money and head to Rochester

[-] Noved@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago

"anything I disagree with is government propaganda"

[-] GameGod@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

Must be hard work writing these low-effort 1 liner troll comments in every thread. Hope you're getting paid for it because otherwise... well....

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago
[-] AnotherDirtyAnglo@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

You think you'll be getting more? How do you think the shareholders will get paid? Do you think doctors and nurses will cost less in the private system? Will private companies negotiate with pharma to lower drug prices, or just add 20% on top?

I suspect you haven't thought this through, and are letting your anger lead you to the wrong conclusion. Maybe you could try voting for someone else (and convincing your friends and family to do the same) for the next election.

[-] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago

oof, just absolute oof.

You would have to pay me a LOT of money to move to the USA, primarily because of how bad their healthcare is.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You've never noticed when Americans take jobs up in Canada, they usually say "fuck this noise" and head home within a year?

[-] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

No, can't say I have.

Have several friends who came from the states. The general consensus seems to be more "thank god I escaped there"

[-] WiseThat@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

In Canada, we spend about $8k on healthcare each year per person. This is mostly taxes, but also partly co-pays and private employer insurance.

America spends about $14k per person.

In both the USA and Canada, about 28% of government spending goes to healthcare. In the US that means about ~6k in total government budget from your tax dollars is spent on healthcare, while in Canada it's about ~7K.

The difference is that the average american also pays an additional $8K in their own after-tax dollars from their pockets in insurance and direct-billing for services.

And for the privilege of paying nearly twice as much, the Americans have a life expectancy of 6 years less than Canadians (76.3 vs 82.6)

[-] AnotherDirtyAnglo@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

My mother moved from Ontario to Alberta a few years back because she said it was the "last place in Canada that respects my freedom". I probably don't need to tell you she dove head-first into the barrel of pig shit that is internet conspiracy theories over the course of the pandemic.

She's chronically ill with a leukemia that is successfully managed by medication -- but it requires regular care from experts or she could have a stroke or heart attack. She was also showing signs of dementia before I had to go zero-contact with her. As much as I don't wish her harm... I suspect she won't live long enough to regret her decision for very long.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Expect healthcare to fully disappear after the Cons win Federally in the next election. Unless of course if Quebec can save us

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

If you get the cons in power hopefully Quebec will save itself!

[-] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

I want to apologize to Alberta for publicly stating that: "at least you will never have anyone worse than kenney". It is so much worse that it seems like a prank.

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