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I just wanted to take a moment to enjoy how clean the web can be (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 months ago by DanForever@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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I happened to click a link that took me to the associated ~~twitter~~ X account for something I was interested in and was greeted by not one, not two, but four modern day web popups.

I know it's nothing new. I've got a couple of firefox plugins that are usually quite good at hiding this sort of nonsense, but I guess they failed me today (or, I shudder to think, there were even more that were blocked, and this is what got through)

What's the worst new/not-signed-in user experience you've encountered recently?

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[-] alexc@lemmy.world 218 points 2 months ago

The web. It was good while it lasted.

[-] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 164 points 2 months ago

robots.txt is the perfect summary of the web era. A plain text file that politely asked web crawlers not to do certain things. Such an innocent time.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 134 points 2 months ago

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 162 points 2 months ago

Please unblock challenges.cloudflare.com to proceed
(grumble, unblock, reload)

Verify you are human
(click)

...spin...spin......spin...
Verify you are human
(click)

...spin...spin......spin...

[-] jaaaardvark@lemm.ee 35 points 2 months ago

https://privacypass.github.io/ has helped somewhat

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 54 points 2 months ago

Privacy Pass will generate a number of random nonces that will be used as tokens

British people making a double take

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[-] progandy@feddit.org 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

... Spin ... Spin ... Spin ...

... Remember that you turned off your VPN

... Turn it on

... CF: OK, only humans use VPN, no need to show the challenge

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[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 106 points 2 months ago

GIVE US YOUR DATA GIVE US YOUR DATA GIVE US YOUR DATA

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[-] heavy@sh.itjust.works 100 points 2 months ago

I will say that the Google Auth prompt in particular is just this huge nuisance and a horrible experience. People should feel stupid for including it in their web experience.

[-] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

Wait, how can I get rid of google auth pop-ups? I got Ublock but they still come up whenever I go to a reddit page.

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[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 87 points 2 months ago

If this was your webpage 15 years ago, you'd be almost certain that you'd been infected with malware.

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 28 points 2 months ago

I really really do miss old school internet and feel kinda bad for people who never get to experience it. I know i sound like a cunt, and maybe it's just nostalgia, but when the internet was bound to a computer and it was mainly "nerds" using it, it was such a better time. I remember a time where the internet was fast enough for pictures and small videos, but having your own picture somehow on the internet was witchcraft to me. Scanner, cameras who are digital whaaat? Now most of the internet is ads and pictures of people who i don't give a shit about. People's opinion, picture of people, fuck off bring back the time where the internet was either forums or someone's weird website, where you only stumbled upon because you typed in a web adress i. The hopes it leads you somewhere.

I had a girlfriend who was truly fascinated by the fact that i don't have social media and that i'm not "on the internet" like she didn't find me and my stupid face anywhere on the web. She was often wondering what i was doing on the internet if i don't have social media, because that was the internet to her. Facebook, instagram, tiktok and youtube.

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[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There was a screenshot I once saw of a Chinese netizen's web browser in the late-2000's, using Internet Explorer 6 and tonnes of third-party toolbars. I think I saw it back when Digg was still a thing. We've now reached the age where major websites are more cluttered with notifications than a malware-infected browser was 15 years ago, and where everybody is tracking everything that you do online.

25 years ago, we legitimately drove RealNetworks into the ground for a lot less than what we're allowing Google, Microsoft, Meta, X, etc to get away in the modern day.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 69 points 2 months ago

EU: "You can't just collect people's data, you have to ask permission first and give people the opportunity to decline."

Site Developers: "Fine, but we're going to comply in the most malicious manner possible."

HEY DO YOU WANT COOKIES ARE YOU SURE PLEASE HIT THE BIG BLUE BUTTON FOR COOKIES THEY ARE HELPFUL AND GOOD PLEASE GIVE COOKIES!!!!!

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago

It'd be fun if the EU started policing any use of the phrase "We are required to show this dialog".

They're not. They choose to show that dialog so that they can try to apply commercial tracking cookies. Anything for website function is already covered by EU laws.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

There have been a couple of changes to the rule since it came into effect. Originally, the pop up could effectively occlude the "Do Not Enable Cookies" button behind a maze of "Optional" settings. The end result was a big colorful "I Consent" button and a tiny little gear button with a thousand manual checkboxes to uncheck every time you visited the site.

The regulations were updated since. Now these annoying pop-ups at least tend to have a clearly defined "Yes, I Consent" / "No, I Do Not" at equal scale and opposite color, allowing you to bypass it without going into the weeds on a configuration screen.

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[-] hightrix@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago

That screenshot looks like the old screenshots from the early browser wars with 20 toolbars stacked.

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago

We can sell 80 percent of the screen without inducing seizures!

[-] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 2 months ago

*without reaching statistically relevant levels of seizure induced deaths.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 27 points 2 months ago

*without being sued for more than we would make from seizure induced deaths

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

*without being successfully sued for more than we would make from seizure induced deaths.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 20 points 2 months ago

*without being successfully sued for more than we would make from seizure induced death, outside of an arbritration court thank to our ToS

[-] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 59 points 2 months ago

Visiting the corpse of Twitter was your first mistake

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This kind of thing getting worse and worse at all levels of tech is increasingly pushing me to the fringes of tech solutions (with all of the handicaps that come with that) as those are getting to be the only places where this kind of thing is not pervasive.

No apps on phone, if the mobile site doesn't work it can wait until I am in front of a desktop/laptop
No NFC payments as that requires the phone to be blessed by lord Google or father Apple
No set top streaming boxes on the TV, just a small Linux powered PC and a cheap Logitech wireless keyboard/trackpad
Only Linux OSes on desktop/laptop

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[-] Mio@feddit.nu 50 points 2 months ago

The different popups just show how bad design the web is today.

Ask cookie question is required.

Agreement? Read them 1 hour until you have understood everything.

Webbrowser: can I get your location? And please the mic and video too!

Finally, don't forget the ads!

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Agreement? Read them 1 hour until you have understood everything.

I one time for fun (cause I'm insane) read the entire Windows license agreement, MSA (Microsoft Services Agreement), and privacy policy. It took me 1 hour and 45 minutes, I timed it.

[-] DemonVisual@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago

I could imagine they'd be interested in you over here: Tosdr.org

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[-] umbraroze@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago

Did someone say... cookies?

I can just tell that whenever Twitter's user interface has weak attempts at humour, it was put there during the previous ownership, and that just makes me sad.

Like when you delete your account the final message says "#Goodbye", I was tearing up, thinking, like, shit, Musk really fucked everything up, did he?

[-] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 2 months ago

Musk made it even worse but Twitter was already shit before Musk

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 43 points 2 months ago

Anybody know why google has a popup on every major website now? And more importantly, how to get rid of that without creating an account?

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

uBlock Origin Filter:

||smartlock.google.com
||accounts.google.com/gsi/$3p
||id.google.com^

||accounts.google.com/gsi/*$xhr,script,3p.

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[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 months ago

It's kind of bothersome how almost blind I am to them now. I habitually find a way to close them without having to read or focus my eyes on anything. That's not to say it isn't still an annoyance.

[-] natecox@programming.dev 62 points 2 months ago

This is so common it has a name, it’s called banner blindness.

One of the important aspects of interface design is supposed to be not showing alerts for everything, so that when they pop up you feel compelled to pay attention.

Not long ago a nurse killed an older woman by giving her the wrong medicine; she took accountability but called out that the software they use provides so many alerts that (probably unofficial) policy was to just click through them to get to treating the patient. One of those alerts was a callout that the wrong dosage was selected and she zoomed right by it out of habit.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 months ago

Another term I seen in the context of healthcare is alert fatigue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alarm_fatigue

Alarm fatigue or alert fatigue describes how busy workers (in the case of health care, clinicians) become desensitized to safety alerts, and as a result ignore or fail to respond appropriately to such warnings.[1] Alarm fatigue occurs in many fields, including construction[2] and mining[3] (where vehicle back-up alarms sound so frequently that they often become senseless background noise), healthcare[4] (where electronic monitors tracking clinical information such as vital signs and blood glucose sound alarms so frequently, and often for such minor reasons, that they lose the urgency and attention-grabbing power which they are intended to have), and the nuclear power field. Like crying wolf, such false alarms rob the critical alarms of the importance they deserve. Alarm management and policy are critical to prevent alarm fatigue.

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 38 points 2 months ago

Automation engineer here: alarm management is a hugely important part of making a plant operable.

It is also a project that is never done, you must always review alarms that come in and see if they are providing useful information and what the operators are supposed to do with said information.

If the operators are not supposed to do anything with the information, then what is the point of having the alarm?

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[-] sunbytes@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

The absolute lack of any kind of consistency with layout or alignment makes me cringe too.

It's just shows how they're just glued onto the page with no care or planning. Especially no consideration to the user or user experience.

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[-] viy@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

Then companies like..."dont use adblock"

[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 months ago

I LOATHE that fucking google sign in overlay.

[-] cupcakezealot 28 points 2 months ago

web 1.0 wasn't flashy but it got the point across. bring it back.

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[-] superkret@feddit.org 27 points 2 months ago

A porn site a friend of mine sometimes visits pops up a "sign in with Google" banner when you visit without annoyance blocker, and a "like this on Facebook" when you open a video.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Dont be a pussy, do it!

[-] superkret@feddit.org 17 points 2 months ago

oops, forgot to sign out of the church account. This will be a learning opportunity!

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[-] glowie@h4x0r.host 22 points 2 months ago

xcancel.com ftw

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

The corporates keep finding ways to reintroduce the same shitty popup ads from the 90s to defeat whatever's been put in place to keep it from happening. Absolutely no sense of nuance. It's not the specific delivery mechanism users dislike, it's the whole terrible UX pattern. Stop trying to make me do shit that's not what I'm trying to do!

[-] Hammocks4All@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

X gon give it to ya

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