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submitted 4 months ago by Charger8232@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

It is truly upsetting to see how few people use password managers. I have witnessed people who always use the same password (and even tell me what it is), people who try to login to accounts but constantly can't remember which credentials they used, people who store all of their passwords on a text file on their desktop, people who use a password manager but store the master password on Discord, entire tech sectors in companies locked to LastPass, and so much more. One person even told me they were upset that websites wouldn't tell you password requirements after you create your account, and so they screenshot the requirements every time so they could remember which characters to add to their reused password.

Use a password manager. Whatever solution you think you can come up with is most likely not secure. Computers store a lot of temporary files in places you might not even know how to check, so don't just stick it in a text file. Use a properly made password manager, such as Bitwarden or KeePassXC. They're not going to steal your passwords. Store your master password in a safe place or use a passphrase that you can remember. Even using your browser's password storage is better than nothing. Don't reuse passwords, use long randomly generated ones.

It's free, it's convenient, it takes a few minutes to set up, and its a massive boost in security. No needing to remember passwords. No needing to come up with new passwords. No manually typing passwords. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but if even one of you decides to use a password manager after this then it's an easy win.

Please, don't wait. If you aren't using a password manager right now, take a few minutes. You'll thank yourself later.

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[-] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

If you're on Linux and you don't want to use KeepassXC, you can check out Secrets on Flathub, it has imo a better UI/UX

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[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I use a password pattern. I have hundreds of different passwords all stored in my head and all between 10-20 characters long. The trick is to have a deterministic formula for picking a password.

Example: short word + First 6 in url + symbol + short word capitalised + number

Let's say the first word is cat and second is dog, symbol is - and number is 5 and you have a Gmail it would give you

"catgmail-Dog5"

https://www.passwordmonster.com/ gives it 61 years to crack this one but if you use longer words you get better times.

[-] hatter@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Wait are you saying that with the example your provided your password for Lemmy would be catlemmy-Dog5? Because that's a terrible system.

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[-] monobot@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

It is truly upsetting to see how complicated for use password managers are.

I grow up around computers and I can barely mange them. Other people just don't understand how to use them, it is complicated and inconvenient. Even after I set them up and show them multiple times, friends don't manage.

In browser password managers cover 90%, but I guess web sites and apps need to start testing UX for password managers. Some of them introduce stupid flows that brake all of them.

Android is complete shit show.

It is not users, but applications and UX that doesn't care about security.

[-] ray@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

What's wrong with android? I have bitwarden setup any basically any time I tap a password field it offers me to fill in from my vault.

[-] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

Bitwarden on Android, particularly if you have biometric unlock enabled, is extremely simple to setup and use.

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[-] zeh_ahoi@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

i dont understand this post. like every browser has a password manager, why install some 3rd party you can even trust less?! am i missing something? doesnt safari have a password manager? is keepasscx really safe (CVE-2023-32784)? or bitwarden (https://blog.redteam-pentesting.de/2024/bitwarden-heist/)?

[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago

In-built password managers for browsers are straightforward to crack. Like… Terrifyingly easy. It's much better to use something like Bitwarden, Vaultwarden if you don't trust Bitwarden, 1Password if you really want the reassurance of paying someone for trust, or KeePass if you don't trust anyone at all (I, personally, fit into this category).

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[-] Zicoxy3@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

I have been using password gestoires for a long time. First LastPass, until I switched to GNU/linux and discovered Keepass and then KeepassXC.... For me they are indispensable. That's the one I used until about 1 year ago when I started having problems with the Firefox addon. It did not recognize the pages. I tried ProtonPass and I like it, but I don't like having them online, no matter how secure the site is. I've tried going back to KeepassXC, locally, but the file I export from ProtonPass won't load in KeepassXC. I feel stuck.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

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[-] x@niwego.com 3 points 4 months ago

@Charger8232 I have been using Vaultwarden (Unofficial Bitwarden compatible server written in Rust) selfhosted for a few years now, and I have to say I'm very happy with it. I also use the backup strategy, on some media (USB stick and SSD) encrypted with Veracrypt.

[-] nullroot@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I've been using Firefoxs integrated password manager for lots of unimportant logins, KeePass for everything else.

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[-] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago

just. write it down? in a notebook? keepassxc is rly good if you dont want to do that though

[-] pathief@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

This is not a real solution. You're supposed to have a unique password for everything. Managing that notebook would be an hassle, not to mention backing it up. It would easily have dozens of records, if not hundreds.

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[-] Kit 2 points 4 months ago

I don't recommend Bitwarden. I used them in a corporate environment and they lost all of our company's credentials. It was a huge hit that cost tens of thousands worth of man-hours to overcome. Their response was to shrug and say sorry. We were paying a premium for their services, too, and have moved onto LastPass.

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