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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.ml

It’s only currently planned for PC, with no controller or console plans yet — and Mountaintop won’t necessarily allow Steam Deck to join. “Steam Deck is a concern as a cheating vector, and I think our anti-cheat systems may block it right now,” Mountaintop CEO and cofounder Nate Mitchell tells me.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2641470/Spectre_Divide/

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[-] imnapr@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 3 months ago

Bro when is gaming gonna get over this idea that the ONLY way to block cheaters is with some kernel level spyware. Its fucking ridiculous dog

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago

It's because of corporate greed. Anticheat is basically totally achievable on the server side, but that requires much more computing power. The idea of client side anticheat is to reduce infrastructure cost.

[-] cadekat@pawb.social 10 points 3 months ago

Eh, it's also much easier to slap a client-side detector on because you can use generic detection methods. When you're doing it server-side, you have to rely a lot on statistical analysis and it's all game specific.

In the end you can, of course, reduce it all to not shelling out money, but there is some nuance too.

[-] inferno69@mastodon.social 2 points 3 months ago

@cadekat @bionicjoey

This whole anti-cheat is ridiculous and dangerous. We shouldn't be using anti-cheat to scan the kernel for cheating. If people are able to manipulate the kernel to cheat on video games well guess what... The terrorists have won. We should just give into their demands.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago

Oh no. a game I haven't heard of isn't going to play nicely on the deck, I guess I'll go back to my mountain of compatible games...

Sounds like it has forced multiplayer components always /yuck

[-] neatchee@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

It's literally a multiplayer competitive shooter. That's the game.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago

I don't even have a steam deck, and this would make me never play the game, much less pay for it

[-] exu@feditown.com 13 points 3 months ago

PC = Microsoft™️ PC according to this article

[-] sleepyTonia@programming.dev 10 points 3 months ago

I'm sorry, what game? This just looks like a 5$ bin indie™ (They got 30M$ in funding through investments) Unreal Engine 4 shooter. The fact that there's no controller support or console ports planned says more than enough. What's newsworthy about their use of a crappy anti-cheat? Not like most in here were ever going to even think about it. It's a freemium GAAS shooter with an almost inevitably a small player base which will be all but dead a few months after coming out. I know I'm being mean and their people have been working on this game for years now, but come on.

[-] yuri@pawb.social 9 points 3 months ago

ah yes, “The Cheater’s OS” as us linux-heads like to call it

[-] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 8 points 3 months ago

Lol How is it cheating. Idiots

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

they didn't say using Steam Deck per se is cheating, but that it's a cheating vector, i.e. it's (according to them) easier to use cheats on it than on Windows PCs.

[-] iThreepwood@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 3 months ago

@noodlejetski @belated_frog_pants How to screw your company over bad decisions 101

[-] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Its protondb page shows "borked".

[-] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

who the fuck is looking forward to some aggressively generic shooter filled with micro-transactions

[-] soundconjurer@mstdn.social 2 points 3 months ago

@mr_MADAFAKA , I guess thier developers have some bad spaghetti code and can't debug it enough to work on anything else. And if you were to get it to work, you'd outclass their developers and thus could cheat.

[-] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Lmao, wtf is this?! When I tried the test it loaded up battleeye....

That said it's a shame. It's a very unique way to make a TAC shooter. After 5 or so matches you start to realize the potential for some galaxy brain sized strats and play styles. But man does exhaust your brain trying to keep up with it all in the heat of the moment.

Edit: I wonder if the upcoming NTSYNC to the Linux kernel will affect if these kernel level anticheats are compatible?

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