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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I'm helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because "Linux can't play games" despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can't even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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[-] GuyFi@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago

Dude windows works like a charm for me unless I start fucking with the drivers I really hope that fixes itself somehow because I do think windows is a pretty decent os and it sucks that it's having that big of an issue

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[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Strange. I install windows 11 at least 3 times a week at work, it takes about 5 mins and is useable out the box.

Perhaps you could try RevoOS

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[-] Surp@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I know this is a Linux /c/ but maybe youre just not educated in windows is all. I use Mac windows and Linux and can play games on them all. I don't find any of them hard to use but again I make it a point to use them all so I don't ever have to be apart of the communitys that hate one or the other. I like them all it's fun.

[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

I get this feeling, but with iOS. Oh, I want to save a picture I found on the internet and message it. It's incredibly unintuitive to me and I feel like a grandma, even though on any other platform it would be easy.

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[-] carved_beats@waveform.social 20 points 1 year ago

Its not that bad but the most time you spend on installation is opting out of services. This takes up like 75% of the install time :D

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[-] art@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It's about familiarity. I didn't know how to install drivers on Windows. I searched and didn't see anything in the settings about firmware updates. I was stumped.

My friend comes over and tells me I have to go to the manufacturer website to download drivers and it was like going back in time.

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 18 points 1 year ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm gathering that you're a bit upset.

[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

I'm a Windows user at home because there are two games that aren't supported on Linux. However I run Linux on a second SSD as i hope to move away from Windows one day.

Windows just works. When I install Linux it all looks great until I start to use it and find small issues. Like my Yubikey doesn't work so I can't get into certain websites. Once I install another app I get that working and then spend an hour trying to get the Bitwarden desktop client to work. I result in a forum post before being told that security keys are not supported by the application and Linux. It's a Windows only feature currently.
Videos in Firefox lag. I've done nothing special with the OS, this is Firefox that is installed with the OS. I'm yet to fix this but also yet to investigate the issue.

Every time I use Linux I first have to fix things to get it working. I've never had this with Windows. I'm sure people will down vote me to hell, with this being a Linux community, but that's just my experience.

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[-] aledo@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile, I invested a solid 30hrs over 2 weeks of troubleshooting, researching, and getting help from users in order to have 4k120 on Fedora, something that supposedly works for my configuration. And no worky.

I really really wanted 2023 to be the year I finally migrated, but basic functionality being inexplicably broken just isn't it.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago

At that point, I think it's fair to send said family member to Geek Squad and explain that you can't invest any more time in the project.

[-] db2@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

I keep a virtual machine of 10. I don't enjoy using it though.

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[-] baatliwala@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Unless you are literally retarded I can't see how you can have that much trouble with windows.

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[-] Aphroditusss@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

This thread has to be a bait

I'd say that stuff like this happens less often on windows, but it's also worse when it does because you have fewer resources to fix problems when you do run into them

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 14 points 1 year ago

Avoiding expressions like "fucking god", "fucking fuck", "fucking bullshit", would help your argument.

While I agree with the premise, that Windows is indeed more untidy, clunky and counterintuitive than GNOME and KDE Plasma, still it is not harder to install.

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[-] WeThePilgrims@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago

You're going to hear a lot of people saying how straight forward Windows is install; I'm avoiding W11 so have my W10 anecdote.

The only way I've ever been able to install W10 is to disconnect every single peripheral except m/kb and one single drive.

Anything else over the years, be it different mobos, HDD,SSD m.2 thingies it's always been the same; anything more than m/kb and one single disk W10 shits the bed.

If you're still struggling, try that.

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[-] RoboRay@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows

Building a PC technically doesn't include OS installation.

Build it, boot your OS of choice from a live USB to verify the hardware all works, then walk away.

I told my friends and family years ago that I will be happy to set them up with a working Linux installation and will support them as needed... but if they want to use Windows they are on their own.

[-] zer0@thelemmy.club 14 points 1 year ago

People think window is easier because that's what they are used to. If all schools in a city were to suddenly drop windows and switch to linux you would see microsoft coming at them with donations and offering free deals. It already happened more than once.

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[-] Cornelius@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I'm really surprised at how much people are ripping on Linux here at lemmy. It's completely justified, I agree that Linux still needs some polish in a few areas before it can REPLACE windows, but I would've figured lemmy to be a bit more... I dunno red pilled and biased towards Linux.

I daily Fedora for ALL my games pretty much, save for Metro Redux: Enhanced Edition and SteamVR titles. Games with anticheat that don't work on Linux? I don't play them anymore, if they don't wanna play ball that's fine.

[-] Surface_Detail@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

I mean OP is trying to paint Linux as the more user friendly system and I think we can all agree that's BS.

Linux has many advantages. User Friendliness is not one of them

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