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[-] anonymoose@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Pretty sure the law doesn't give a shit what conventions Hollywood has developed and followed over the years. You have a gun in your hand, you pull the trigger, you are responsible for the outcome. Don't like it? Learn gun safety, ignore what the person handing you the gun claims, check that it's unloaded yourself. Hollywood conventions need to change to align with reality.

Edit: I've been out of the loop. I wasn't aware they dropped charges against Baldwin. That's really fucked up in my opinion, as per the above.

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[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Bro really looks like a call of duty character

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[-] nxfsi@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Disingenuous post. Actor not being responsible ≠ blindly trust the guy in charge to not make any mistake ever and not even checking your own weapon. This is common fucking sense and you would think they learned that after Brandon Lee.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

What happened to Brandon Lee was wildly different. Talk about disingenuous using it as a comparison.

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[-] CapraObscura@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

"Common sense" does not exist. You have been taught literally everything you know.

Your comment is a fine example of every internet asshole with a gun thinking they know everything about all situations in which a gun could conceivably be used.

Understand something. On a movie set, you are not on a firing range. First of all, there shouldn't even be a single round of live ammunition on the set. In the rare circumstances where it is required, the armorer should be the only one handling the loaded weapon until moments before the actor is firing it. This is the case even with blank firing weapons. You are not surrounded by people that ostensibly have an interest in firearms, or even want to handle firearms.

The armorer is responsible for loading the firearm and readying it to fire. The actor's SOLE responsibility is to point it and shoot. No, they should not in any way be responsible for ensuring the safe or not-safe status of the firearm. THEY SHOULD ASSUME IT IS SAFE TO USE IN THE WAY THEY ARE BEING DIRECTED TO USE IT BECAUSE IT IS THE ARMORER'S JOB TO ENSURE IT IS SAFE.

Is everyone on set responsible for making sure that craft services is cooking the chicken to the proper internal temperature, or storing the lettuce in a refrigerator? No. Fuck no.

Welcome to the world of professionals, where it's assumed you know what the fuck you're doing.

And seriously, drop this fucking "nepo baby" horseshit unless you're going to start applying it to LITERALLY EVERYONE THAT GETS A JOB IN THE SAME INDUSTRY AS THEIR PARENTS.

But you don't give a shit when Cleetus McFuckbag Jr takes over dad's lawn care business and fucks it up, do you?

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[-] moistclump@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

There’s a few reasons why he was charged, both as an actor and producer. Gun safety just can’t be fucked around with.

In the document, prosecutors accused Baldwin of “many instances of extremely reckless acts” during the film’s production.

They wrote that Baldwin “was not present” for mandatory firearms training before filming began. He was instead provided on-set guidance but prosecutors allege he was “distracted and talking on his cell phone to his family.” The training session was scheduled for an hour but was only 30 minutes long due to Baldwin’s “distraction” on the phone.

… The prosecutor’s statement described several “acts or omissions of recklessness” on the set of Rust. This included foregoing the use of a prop gun during unscheduled rehearsals, willful ignorance toward on-set safety complaints and a lack of armourer-performed safety checks.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9451182/alec-baldwin-rust-manslaughter-charge-phone/amp/

[-] Legendsofanus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Whatever happened was horrible but also, and my brain can't stop thinking about this, will the movie ever come out? I don't think it did

[-] eestileib 10 points 2 years ago

He didn't answer the question...

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[-] FrostKing@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I'm not super up to date with the situation—Why is it that it happened in 2021 (from what I can find) and there's a bunch of people talking about it right now?

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[-] CoffeeGrounds@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

If you handle a firearm, it is your responsibility to know whether that firearm is loaded, simple as that. Hollywood shouldn't get a pass just because Hollywood has been irresponsibly handling firearms for its entire existence. The responsibility lies both on the armorer and Baldwin, they both failed in this moment.

[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago

If you handle a prop on a movie set, it's not your responsibility to know that this time it's not a prop but real loaded gun this time. It's inconceivable to me how it's even possible that a gun even there, but I guess I am not American enough to understand that

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[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

So I get that the armored is chiefly responsible but I have to wonder... why was he pointing the gun in that direction at all? When I heard that someone was shot, my first thought was, why wasn't it another actor? You know, like the person he was shooting at in the movie? The media never seems to answer the questions I have.

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