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Doesn't CrowdStrike have more important things to do right now than try to take down a parody site?

That's what IT consultant David Senk wondered when CrowdStrike sent a Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) takedown notice targeting his parody site ClownStrike.

Senk created ClownStrike in the aftermath of the largest IT outage the world has ever seen—which CrowdStrike blamed on a buggy security update that shut down systems and incited prolonged chaos in airports, hospitals, and businesses worldwide....

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[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 213 points 5 months ago

Sounds like they could use some more sites linking to them to improve SEO. https://clownstrike.lol/

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 54 points 5 months ago

This. This is why we invented the internet. Well this and porn.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

Full Streisand effect.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 5 months ago

It's blocked on my work computer, saying it's a malware website

[-] All_Your_Base@feddit.cl 66 points 5 months ago

"The category of https://clownstrike.lol/ is Phishing

This site has been reviewed recently. We are not accepting category change requests at this time."

Fortinet filter lmao

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

ill manually whitelist them on my fleet rofl

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 months ago

Accessible through my corporate network. Fun thing, that.

[-] grubbyweasel@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

this is so tame lmao

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 194 points 5 months ago

Using the DMCA as a censorship tool needs to be a criminal offense subject to jail time.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 35 points 5 months ago

Why that’s literally what it was designed to do

[-] rezifon@lemmy.world 50 points 5 months ago

DMCA was designed to prevent intellectual property infringement, not as a censorship tool.

[-] Ransack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 5 months ago

Yes that's exactly what the person you replied to was saying.

DMCA was built to save IP, however it's routinely abused and used for censorship. And not a single thing is done to the abusers so they continue with their nonsense.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago

No they literally said that DMCA was designed for censorship...

[-] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Copyright assholes got a seat at the table when it was being drafted everyone else was given the finger. Its designed to be easily abused. Accidently on purpose, if you get me.

[-] turmacar@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It is, but this isn't. The DMCA doesn't mention Trademark. That's a separate section of law because copyright and trademark are different things.

Crowdstrike submitting a DMCA takedown for alleged Trademark infringement isn't how it's supposed to work at all. Likely because they know this isn't actually a Trademark infringement case.

Cloudflare's automated system not being smart enough to see that is fine. Their abuse/counterclaim process being broken isn't. ( Not that that's new or unique )

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[-] nifty@lemmy.world 145 points 5 months ago

Lmao what a legend. How would DMCA even apply in this case though? Parodies are free speech

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 155 points 5 months ago

They don't. Companies regularly abuse DMCA notices because the law REQUIRES a hosting company to take down the information immediately.

It allows 14 days for the same information to be restored after receiving a counter notice.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 months ago

I think if DMCAs are abused, it should limit the company's ability to file one in the future.

and if not... regular people could do the same

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Laws only apply to poor people. If you submit a bogus DMCA that takes down a corporation's site, they will sue you so hard your children's children will be paying off the debt.

It's all by design. The level of damage is measured by capital, and not by how illegitimate, anti-competitive, immoral, or criminal the actions are. There aren't any multipliers to level the playing field against their wealth and power. All of the multipliers are in their favor.

[-] dan@upvote.au 11 points 5 months ago

I don't see anything on that site that infringes the DMCA. At best they might have a trademark violation claim, but DMCA is only for copyright claims, not trademark claims.

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[-] otter@lemmy.ca 122 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

https://clownstrike.lol/crowdmad/

This line:

P.S. Don’t your lawyers have more important shit to be doing right now anyway?

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 69 points 5 months ago

Apparently, Cloudflare never received either of Senk's counter notices, which is a problem since Cloudflare only allows a 72-hour window to contest a takedown notice.

This sounds like ClownFlare outright lying through its teeth. Probably not even to defend ClownStrike, but to not look incompetent.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think it's time to expand the Clown-Empire and add ClownSocialServices.lol and ClownFlare to its Vassals.
What do we call the head of state? The Witish Clown?

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[-] dan@upvote.au 69 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I don’t see anything on the parody ClownStrike site that infringes the DMCA. At best, Crowdstrike might have a valid trademark infringement claim, but DMCA is only for copyright infringement claims, not trademark claims.

[-] ramune@lemmy.world 61 points 5 months ago

I support the right of clowns to strike for whatever reason

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 26 points 5 months ago

They've gotta do something in the face of ballooning expenses...

[-] EdgeOfToday@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

Well everyone nose about inflation, but what about a clown's right to shoes?

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 5 months ago

Shoes? They could use a bigger car first. Have you seen how many people they have to cram in there?

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago

Bigger cars!? Have you seen the price of pies in this economy?

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Buddy, I don't want to hear about clowns and their creampies, or whatever it is you're watching online.

[-] foofiepie@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Whatever they’re watching, it’s fucking funny.

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[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Helium prices are TOO DAMN HIGH

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 61 points 5 months ago

They should have used their software to bring it down. We all know that will do it.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 months ago

...provided it runs on CrowdStrike-protected systems. I would expect the site's operator to make sure to avoid that if they can help it.

[-] djvinniev77@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago

You sonofa.. Made me spill my drink...

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 50 points 5 months ago

way to go, dorks. now i've heard of this site that i would have never heard of if you hadn't streissanded it. and i for one approve

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 49 points 5 months ago

told Ars that he has no plans to move ClownStrike back to Cloudflare's hosting service. Instead, he responded by suggesting that Cloudflare update its abuse-reporting system to confirm receipt of counter notices, build a web portal where users can track abuse reports,

Good suggestions

and perhaps most significantly, revoke CSC's ability to submit abuse reports as a penalty for sending a bogus takedown

Pretty sure they can't. DMCA has strict rules that providers must follow to avoid liability.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

Imagine believing that large enough companies would be so heinous as to follow the law. What villains they'd be!

/s

[-] troybot@midwest.social 34 points 5 months ago

My name is Nathan Fielder, And I graduated from one of Canada's top business schools with really good grades.

The plan: turn this website into the world's first parody cybersecurity platform

[-] __init__@programming.dev 8 points 5 months ago

We will call it… Dumb Crowdstrike.

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

Clown Strike’s only real crime is kerning.

[-] snekmuffin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 5 months ago

thats not kerning, that's justification ☝️🤓️

kerning refers to the spacing between individual letters in the words, and justification is a method of typograghic alignment where space between words is stretched to make text flush with both left and right margins

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[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 18 points 5 months ago

they should update their homepage to a forced download of an empty index.html

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago

Maybe laylow and STFU crowdstrike? You know what never mind, pour fuel on the fire burning below you - go out screaming you turds.

[-] Sentient_Modem@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

Funny that clownstrike.com redirects to crowdstrike.com. I tried this before seeing the .lol domain. Lol

[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I am illiterate ignore me.

~~>Senk received a DMCA notice from Cloudflare's trust and safety team, which was then hosting the parody site.~~

~~Cloudflare sent themselves a DMCA takedown notice, instead of just taking down the content from their own web hosting for violating their policies. Weird.~~

[-] mark@infosec.pub 16 points 5 months ago

Cloudflare and Crowdstrike are different companies.

[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

ooooooopppppps someday I will learn to read

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[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 months ago

While parody sites are not the intended target of these efforts, it’s possible for such sites to be inadvertently impacted. We will review the process and, where appropriate, evolve ongoing anti-fraud activities.

Hmm, I think I've heard something like that before...

But it pledged Wednesday to keep software glitches like last week’s from happening again, and to publicly release a more detailed analysis when it becomes available.

The company added that it is developing a new check for its validation system “to guard against this type of problematic content from being deployed in the future.

"Oops!"

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