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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com to c/artshare@lemmy.world

Oil on paper.

Trying a lose style, don't look too close :-)

You can check out the intermediate steps on my revived (but resetted 😭) lemmy server here lemmy.mindoki.com/c/aip

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[-] CareHare@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

I love your style. (:

In a weird way, it also made sense to me upside down.

[-] Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Hey thank you ! I'll try painting the next upside down 😁

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

Betty Edwards was a huge proponent of it. And although it personally hurts my brain, it does make things more fun and the results can be quite interesting. As if your evil-twin took control of your paper =P!

[-] Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ha ha I know that book in the link with the man sitting!

Great advice to unlock preconcieved or just natural ideas we have about how big things are.

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

I got to pass it on to another person so kudos to the person who brought it up because it's a brilliant way to see things from another perspective =)!

[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

It's very pretty! Relaxing?

[-] Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com 2 points 3 months ago

Thank you ! Yes I guess it is a very very "boring"/stable composition πŸ˜‹

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

Oh this is really fun! I was scrolling through and saw your piece and just had to take a second and pause. It made me =)!

I've got a ping-pong wing-wong kinda brain though and these are the three things that popped up when I saw it: tomie, monet, and a mountain pass

In that order, so take it as you will but I like it. If you want some soft-criticism I would say working on pushing the forms a bit more might be worth having a think about. Because, and this is a personal opinion, I think you can be abstract while still being a little bit neater than what I am seeing in kinda the upper left area abouts. But I understand what all the shapes are, and I think that's really nice!

The only other thing I would say, and I am not sure if it's due to value or composition (because it's very centric in its focus) but as I see it - the figure sits in front of the opening. Although the opening is compositionally clearly in front of the figure. So it creates this real tension with the eyes that causes a lot of bouncing back and forth. But overall it really is a fun painting and I think you did a great job. So take these as you will =)

[-] Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 points 3 months ago

I just understood your comment about the person sitting in front of the opening. So true, oups!

Maybe the colours needs to be a bit more distant with less red and toned down a bit. Guess I'll have to try it again!

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

I don't know if I would tone down the red but I don't really paint too much anymore so I can't give you a solid answer. This might sound cheesy but you could look at how others use alcoves in their art (that's from the movie Old) but also maybe how other painters utilize light/dark to transform their ocean scenes. But I don't have actual answers someone else might?

Or you could find them along the way =)! Gl!

[-] Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 points 3 months ago

Wow that second painting really is something πŸ’–.

Inspiring!

And maybe I can figure out how to move forward better, thanks!

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

Super cool =)! You're already doing so good. You got this =)!

[-] Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Wow thank you so much! I love the impressionist style so much, especially Renoir Monet and Manet.

Gotta check out Tomir I don't know that artist.

All criticisms warmly appreciated and well taken! I know there are lots of errors in the painting, like the values of the sun spots, the green versus the sand, the details missing in the bushes/trees...

I also made the person just slightly too big, and messed up the distinct natural border between the path and the beach (those green leaves to the right) so there is a line but it gets blurred away...

Thanks again it really warms my heart πŸ’–

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

Hey, hey! Oh so Tomie is a manga by Junji Ito. I believe it's his first manga, but it also might be his first graphic novel because he has released a series of one-shot horror comics too (Since the 80s). It's for sure not for everyone, and I just thought about it because in one of the chapters (and this is all from memory so I might be a little off) - the boy in the manga finds Tomie in a similar opening by the sea. But it's super morbid, and if you're not into that stuff don't even bother.

There was one other fashion artist from the 20s (I wanna say, but I might be off) that your art reminded me of but I couldn't find them. I used to be obsessed. But it's been years, and it's just flown the coop. There were only so many famous fashion painters at the time so I figured I could find them, but no dice. But I think it came from how you painted the figure, because you can really undestand the body type of the individual by how you decided to form it.

I actually liked your person's size and your setup it kinda reminded me of Gina's arc in her rose garden in Porcco Rosso although I guess you're right in that you probably wouldn't find that in nature. You could actually go back in - and open it up with sky and a little clouds even and see if it pulls the trees to the back? I'm not sure, but maybe it will? You could tear some paper up and put it on top before you commit to it. Stand back and it'll give you a good idea of how the composition would change. You could do the same for clouds later if you want to add them.

I actually like most of the trees (I figured they were bushes? Like an overgrown boxwood (even though idk how tall anything grows because I am never that near to anything particularly old) Just that one chunky boy on the left in the front really funks up my eye flow. It kinda pins the image in the upper corner. I wonder what would happen if you close it off (made it black) like the other side? Just that one up there in the top left. I am not sure though, cause I think it also pokes out on the upper right now that I am looking? Eh! The only other thing being that the right side is really smoothly blended while the left is a lot of "poke-poke-poking" at the canvas from what I can tell? That's all I was saying before on that guy. I love the sand like craziness. It's really great, and crunchy. You can almost taste it. Feels like a Dune cover or something. Super great job. great job on that little volca-tain too. Cause that's what it reminds me off. The water is clear and smooth and nice. The woman is comfy and there's a little bit of a breeze and she's a bit fussy about looking dainty so she uses an umbrella. All super good. And overall this painting brought me maximum joy - so that's super good too =)!

I only said what I said, because I think you said you were practicing and it was new. And I don't paint in oils myself, but I figured passing on what I saw might help you if you were trying to learn something new? I didn't mean to offend or anything seriously hahaha! I know you said it's appreciated - I just I mean you know the internet is a pot of criticisms and little praise but I think when learning something it can be super good! And lord knows I'm far from perfect! Okay!

Big hugs! You got this. You're already doing super great and you're evoking some good stuff. So keep going, just follow your heart and you're gunna just blow up! In a good way. Hahaha! Cheers!

[-] Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 points 3 months ago

Hey thanks again!

So nineteen twenties or twenty twenties :-D There are so many fantastic old paintings, it's hard to know who was the master behind each of them, even just among the impressionists, like Adam Smith that I stumbled onto once.

Yeah the green is bushes, mostly. I used two photos to try to get it right, yep I'm very new to oil painting!

I'm on a new painting, but maybe I'll go back and make another try (it's the fourth already) when I feel I 'get' those trees a bit better. Trees are hard sometimes!

It's mostly a try to just exercise, but I do like the setup/composition so I probably feel it worthwhile to make it better. Or so I hope.

Thanks again for all kind criticism and hugs all along!

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

Def were some comments too cause you dun-did good =)! But foreals, you can always come back to stuff and never forget it cause you're walking on the backs of so many if you know what I mean? Like you can always do studies and try to corner what you like so much about them and integrate it into your own approach. You're gunna be a master this time next year, trust =)!

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