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Fuck Reddit (lemmy.fmhy.ml)

After years of using reddit, i finally deleted everything including my account there. Personally, i am not affected by the api prices, BUT, i couldn't live with me supporting people, who see their userbase, moderators and creators as nothing but noise. The point i'm making? Greetings Lemmy. I joined a few days ago and i'm here to stay so cheers everyone and, hi

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[-] Nollij@lemmy.fmhy.ml 21 points 2 years ago

There's a harsh reality of any service, regardless of type. If you aren't the one paying for it, you aren't the customer, you're the product. The lurkers, commenters, posters, and mods are all part of the product to be sold to the real customers, the advertisers.

This move is like the ranchers deciding that veal will sell for a higher price, so now we're all being shackled so that we stay tender.

[-] Blakerboy777@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

This move is like the ranchers deciding that veal will sell for a higher price, so now we're all being shackled so that we stay tender.

I actually think this is far more absurd. The situation is more like the ranchers deciding to charge rent to the cows living on the farm. We're not just the product being sold to advertisers, we're also content creators - building their audience to sell to advertisers. And now if I want to access reddit through a third party, they want to charge about $30/year, plus a 30% markup for the app store cut. You know it's odd, everyone is treating this as though the app developer is being charged this insane amount, but obviously they aren't doing anything with the data commercially, they are simply conveying the information to us. We're ultimately the ones being asked to pay the same as a Curiosity Steam subscription - a service that actually costs money to run and license documentaries, not a fucking text based forum where users create or link out to all the content- just to access a free website in a different way.

[-] RaySteelworth@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

I am aware of that as well as i am also aware of the fact that one does not have to stay anywhere. I was not trying to say anything except for that i don't like seeing me getting fucked over or others getting fucked over, especially when the people are the ones, working for it.

in conclusion, i know that i have to pick a poison, so i prefer to pick the one i get to know the ingredients in it

[-] YooBitches@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hello, welcome, I joined a few days ago as well, because of the same reasons too. What a coincidence.

Not really I know, lot of us came here from reddit because we don't support it anymore. And that's to be expected with latest actions reddit took exposing their greed and need for control.

Anyway each day here I see more and more content, so it seems things are going good and I love seeing it grow. So guess who's going to stay here too. Cheers.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, this no karma currency thing is awesome.

[-] RaySteelworth@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Ah i welcome you just the same my guy. What can is say, let's keep pumping that sweet content here and enjoy our time. I've been sorting things out as of late so this is just the next step to getting to what the internet once was imo. I'm happy to see this website grow too and yea, about that karma, i never really gave much of a shit about it tbh, so works for me. Hope you'll have a pleasant night/day

[-] gorkx@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Hi, i'm edd grubberman, and I came here when one of my anime subs went private. NGL I had no idea it was because WWF style royal rumble between the reddit admin vs users vs mods. kbin.social and lemmy reminds me a little of websites from back in the day. Constant 411, and 505 errors while some servers are trying to keep up. I wonder if the admin will demote the mods. I also wonder wth funny af high octane anime and popcorn movies to watch. and where the hell did I put my car keys?

[-] FrostBolt@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

The no karma thing is a great point and one I overlooked. I wonder how that difference will influence how people post and comment.

[-] gorkx@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Well a min karma and a CAPTCHA check to filter spam was only r/mildlyinfuriating . On the subs I'd lurk in Karma was abused and farmed. My "favorite" (ironically) was temp bans because some people couldn't and or didn't want to read. like I said, I mostly came from reddit because some subs I was using to fix a email problem. then I found out about how weird, and psychotic haufman was, and the entire clusterfuck for going public.

[-] lolpostslol@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah I can even understand the pressure/rush to monetize from the admin’s POV. But nothing justifies being dismissive of the mods/community that works for free to allow your business to exist, or the way they tried to accuse Apollo devs.

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[-] ixiolite@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

I was over Reddit when I saw the news from Christian (Apollo's dev), then Spez's AMA really cemented Reddit was a shit hole, then news came out that they were also laying off 90 staff members, and the final nail in the coffin for me was getting accosted by another user that I was "spreading misinformation and lying" about Reddit when I commented about supporting the black out.

[-] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago

The thing I hate about reddit is that your usage of the site is at the mercy of the admins. If one of them dislike you, you can get permanently banned and even ip banned. In Lemmy, unless you managed to piss off a lot of instance admins, you can't ever truely get banned. But if you do manage to piss of a lot of Lemmy Instance admins, then maybe there's a "you problem".

[-] RaySteelworth@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

I mean, i generally don't see a problem with rules and moderator to make sure they won't be broken, but reddit sure was wild at times. I think, if you're just being yourself and use the social platform for something like, idk, being social, it won't come ti a ban.

tl:dr I agree with you on that point and i see the way lemmy handles this, as a good thing, as freedom of speech should be a given in social platforms

[-] 20k@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

One of the other big problems is name squatting, a lot of the well named subs get traffic by default as a result of their names, not their quality, which makes them impossible to replace with better subs. And unfortunately, mods tends to get more power trippy as time goes on, which means that the quality of some of the subs has gone down significantly and there's not much you can do about it

[-] SMC@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I deleted my 13 year old account.

I just cannot support what Reddit is doing and the direction they are going.

[-] phil299@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

If anyone remembers the digg wave ,this feels very much like it in reverse. Where Digg got it so so wrong is they totally dismissed the cause of the issue and then assumed it would go away.Instead the active user base just left. I think this is happening now to reddit.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

Yes absolutely. Digg actually had multiple waves to reddit. I left on the first one but most left on the second.

It really feels to me a similar effect is happening

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[-] evergreenemily@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

It's the circle of life...

[-] Whirlgirl9@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

sir, I'll have you know I'm a lurker NOT an active user...

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[-] margaritox@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

The only problem is that I was planning on using reddit to transition to one of Lemmy's instances or fediverse. For example, I'm having difficulty logging into kbin.social on mobile (but no problems on desktop). OR I can't seem to be able to log into beehaw. There were various people helping me with these issues on reddit. But I don't wanna log into reddit anymore after all the things the CEO has been saying.

[-] Cinner@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

The issues will be fixed soon. This is a huge unexpected wave and the developers weren't exactly planning on hundreds of thousands of people migrating to their beta software overnight. But more people means more developers able to contribute to code fixes, so just keep being patient and it'll all work out. There is a kbin app in the works currently so your issues with mobile won't be issues long.

[-] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I just completed my comment/post edit/deletion. 10+yrs removed without a trace (unless you count the wayback machine, archived dumps, etc).

Feels as good as I expected, but it was funny, the feeling of watching the edit, then deletion progress.

Long live Lemmy!

[-] RaySteelworth@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Like a new beginning, i hear ya. Nice to hear that you sacrificed a whole decade to make a point. Shows that you mean it and i welcome you to Lemmy.

Long live Lemmy!

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[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I'm in exactly the same boat. I love Reddit and I love the community. I'm a mod of a couple great small subs. But the site management has broken my trust. And that means it's time for me to 'grow up' and start putting serious thought into which networks I'm supporting with my participation. Decentralized is the future. 'Big Tech' platforms are the kiddy pool of the internet, it's time for us as a society to swim into the deep end and take back control of our content and consumption. It's good to be among friends :)

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[-] TGhost@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Thanks the black out !

[-] 1984@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Welp, I also just deleted my 9 year old account. Extracted what I could, checked some communities for the last time, deleted what I could using Power Delete Suite and Redact, and pulled the trigger. I have learned a lot there, found some interesting niche communities, and had interesting conversations, launched a lot, but also got angry at times at the stupidity of people. Bittersweet moment, but I can't continue supporting Reddit in any way. Fediverse, here I come!

[-] Yewb@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Don't forget Reddit is probably one of the best ways to astroturf or push a sentiment.

I would be curious if they have a back door to corporations to allow them to pay reddit to cover up stories.

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

It's paaaaainfully obvious that that's all reddit really is anymore... I know some people would disagree, but I think they tested how extreme people could get about the masks and stuff to test the influence of reddit and realized it could be used entirely for thought control.

I think the best thing for society is to move on from the platform.

[-] turn_to_follow@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

It'll happen here, too.

People forget how obvious the efforts of Correct the Record and ShareBlue were on reddit.

Part of it was understandable: Trump sucks and any alternative was preferable, and reddit as a whole skews young and Democrat. So who cares, right?

But that level of astroturfing would have rightly been called out were the politics swapped.

And it goes way beyond politics. I'm sure Marvel and Disney are sending out feelers to control discussion in reddit alternatives.

[-] 1chemistdown@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Before you all leave Reddit, you should take your stuff with you, and then delete all posts and comments using one of the several ways to automate that.

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[-] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The rolling back and undeleting of comments, as well as the censorship of the feddiverse is the most egregious thing so far.

My principals align with this platform much more, and ultimately is a much more fulfilling social experience for me.

I don't miss reddit.

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[-] gi1242@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Ditto. Been 7 years for me. Still figuring out kbin and lemmy. but decentralized, open source and ad free is my speed ...

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Make a few accounts, you'll need them.

[-] YooBitches@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Is there a reason to have multiple accounts?

[-] RaySteelworth@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

That would be my question as well. Why is the need for more accounts?

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

You can't see comments or communities on defederated instances. NSFW content and piracy related stuff is why I do have more than 1 account.

[-] RaySteelworth@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Understandable, have a nice day

[-] ox@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Better yet? Host your own instance. That way no-one can take your account down.

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[-] asymptotic@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

i couldn't live with me supporting people, who see their userbase, moderators and creators as nothing but noise

I can, because Reddit is useful to me, regardless of Spez's low opinion of me and other Redditors. I'd love for something else to replace Reddit and punish rather than reward the people running it for their bad behavior. Hopefully that's kbin / Lemmy?

But meanwhile I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face.

Subreddits choose to go dark? I support it.

Subreddits choose to open? I support it.

[-] scabrous_leper@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Me too! Here, here!

[-] BigBon@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago
[-] kulta@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I'm partially affected because I use desktop + mobile (on third party app), but I've decided just to stop using reddit entirely.

Its quieter here, but I imagine it'll pick up slowly. The slower pace also helps because I've been spending too much time on reddit.

[-] RaySteelworth@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Things are going quite smoothly here (except for picture upload but i heard that it already gets worked on) and the content is indeed growing every day. Maybe the perfect opportunity to correct some things or have a better start. I'd take it as such and i'm glad to hear that the convertion over to lemmy is helping you out. Social Media sure does a good job on sucking you in until way too much time is gone, but with less busy shit going on on the screen and the platform relying on real social interaction (you know exactly what i mean by that kek), one might be less forgetting of touching some grass. Either way, glad to have you here and i hope it goes better for you as time continues. We live in times that are way too fast paced, to the point where we forget to just exist from time to time. I wish you luck with maintaining that part of life that you regained through this and a pleasant stay.

[-] Sadcoder@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Lemmy ui is amazing, better then I expected

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[-] Madrix19@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I also feel the same, though I am not savvy on the current changes happening, they don't make sense to be. I just find the mods and rules over there too stringent especially after getting banned for making a joke on a satire sub. Been on the search for a new site ever since.

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[-] Puffymumpkins@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago

Hi! Welcome to the Fediverse!

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