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[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 145 points 9 months ago

We asked for Linux native apps and collabrative office suites not this garbage.

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 33 points 9 months ago

They need Linux developers to do that

[-] Acters@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

Linux needs linux developers

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 12 points 9 months ago

Linux has developers. It just needs more desktop users.

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[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 14 points 9 months ago

OK get Linux developers then. we pay for the Software and they asked us what we want them to work on. This is one of the rare cases where Linux users can actually feel entitled to developer attention.

[-] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Except it's cheaper to pay their existing non-Linux developers to do something than hire a team of new developers for Linux.

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[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

They need a simple GUI on top of rclone. The madlads of rclone fucking reversed engineered the drive APIs in record time. Now imagine if they were to tosh some money into that project, and then could focus only in GUI.

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[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Like this collaborative document editor they added a month ago?

https://proton.me/blog/docs-proton-drive

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 5 points 9 months ago

Yes I am aware. Thats a great start but its pretty barebones and needs far more developement.

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 62 points 9 months ago

They should stop adding more and more services and instead focus on making existing services better or - in some cases - feature complete first.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Like proton mail? The existing service that this update is adding a feature to?

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

What, sending bitcoin? That's not really a feature of Proton Mail, rather it's a feature of the wallet that happens to be able to send bitcoin via email (I suppose so that the recipient can then transfer the funds to a bitcoin address of their choice unless their email address is already linked to Proton Wallet).

Even if you'd consider this a feature of Proton Mail, how does this have higher priority than a proper iPad/tablet app, or the ability to add a .ics attachment directly to my (default, non-Proton) calendar without having to manually download the .ics file, open it with a file manager and then add it to the calendar? Filtered views (for example: view unread and starred messages but nothing else in one list)? A somewhat usable offline mode? The list goes on, and that's just Proton Mail. Proton Drive still lacks a native Linux app (I know there's "support" for Proton Drive in rclone, but that's hacked together because Proton doesn't even provide official API documentation and stability commitments).

I'd rather pay for the individual services that I can actually (somewhat) use, like Mail (even though it's not great), but their Mail only tier severely lacks in features (only 1 custom email domain is my main problem). If they'd then commit the financial resources towards improving the service being paid for, that'd be great.

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[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 56 points 9 months ago

I expected more from them, even more so when they turned into a non profit.

I have no interest in it, but Bitcoin wallets aren't necessarily private, and they say the LLM is also private. Given that pretty much everything is trying to mine as much data as possible from your digital interactions, this seems on brand for them.

I still have no interest in Proton Unlimited, but maybe enough of their customers want these features (or they think they will).

[-] ChilledPeppers@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

Yeah, but their llm doesn't even disclose where it gathered its training data, very sus.

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 11 points 9 months ago

Techradar says it's based on the Mistral 7B large language model. But they should definitely disclose that kind of information. It's important to know how a tool works and what kind of mistakes, biases etc are to be expected when using it for important communication.

[-] L_Acacia@lemmy.one 6 points 9 months ago

They is no chance they are the one training it. It costs hundreds of millions to get a descent model. Seems like they will be using mistral, who have scrapped pretty much 100% of the web to use as training data.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

It has to be very good with porn stuff, in that case 🤔

[-] 0laura@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

yes, you can download SD1.5 models that will generate all kinds of degenerate images for you and deneutered LLMs that will write the most disgusting smut you've ever seen. all of it locally, free and 100% private.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Nice 🧐 got to do some research

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[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 50 points 9 months ago

Oh wow, they're hitting all the shitty gimmicks in one fell swoop!

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 33 points 9 months ago

Tech companies are committed to turning satire into reality.

[-] FleetingTit@feddit.org 29 points 9 months ago

Crypto and AI, they went all out...

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Waiting for sweet nfts to drop.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

Maybe my flashlight app can do it next.

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 10 points 9 months ago

It ain't a real flashlight app if it can't automatically flash to vibe with any songs heard from the background

[-] Zerfallen@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

I feel like some people just hear "crypto" or "ai" and start screeching and clawing at the air.

Not every feature needs to be for you specifically, these features are optional and don't compromise or even impact their other products. They seem to be on-brand in being more privacy-focused alternatives to some of the existing market options while remaining accessible, and keeps Proton in the game depending on how the landscape develops.

I don't use Proton (yet) but I generally like what they're doing and hope they succeed, and I don't see any of these developments as negatives, just more competition.

[-] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 19 points 9 months ago

i am surprised they went with bitcoin and not a privacy focused coin like monero

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[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scTjHvot3Uo To those who downvote, haven't you learned that centralisation of services always ends horribly, remember Reddit, twitter, Google, remember why do we go to lemmy, why do we use Linux and self host services, because we wanted decentralised system that won't enshitify as a whole, even if something goes bad, like meta's threads, you can isolate it, yes? But if everything was centralised like in Facebook and others, could you do the same thing? Of course not, never forget folks, centralisation never goes well in the long run, but in short term it's gonna be great if course

[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

All of this convinced me to give up on moving all my accounts to their service and just use the iCloud service I already pay for. Trying to get away from GMail and Google’s privacy policies, but it felt like these moves indicated greater change coming to a service I was sincerely optimistic about prior.

[-] clothes@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

I won't be using these features, but I'm not sure there's cause for concern. The implementation seems very sensible and legitimately privacy-centric. The LLM runs locally and is meant as an very basic email proofreader. The crypto wallet is a likely an extension of the password management tech they've already developed, with transaction features that some people care about.

I can see why some people want these features, and I'm glad there are new alternatives.

[-] mriormro@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Coming from someone who hasn't gotten into the weeds with this company, my understanding was that they did email. I was considering migrating over to them in order to de-google completely.

This move, specifically, has caused me to reconsider and scrap those plans. Not every tech company needs to peddle ai and crypto bullshit.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 7 points 9 months ago

... they do email, but they also do other things. They still do email better than the alternatives.

It's kind of like if Chipotle came out with hamburgers and you were like "well I want a burrito but I'll never get one of their burritos now, they're just like all the other fast food now."

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[-] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago

It's open source, and it's fully self-custody which are two important features. Having a wallet directly integrated into the e-mail client is nice, being able to send payments to other users just knowing their e-mail address instead of their public key is pretty cool. It does automatic address rotation to preserve privacy. Wish it supported lightning for cheaper/faster transactions and additional privacy but hopefully that feature comes in time.

[-] GreenStar@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Checking with proton themself, the main reason seems to be to further resistance in case another instance of a issue they had in initial funding, where paypal blocked all payments to them. A wallet was also heavily requested by business users, and proton is using randomization to reduce tracking detailed on their site. So long as they next work on environmental impact to balance out this stuff, proton is fine still. Here is the code for the wallet: https://github.com/ProtonWallet

[-] GreenStar@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

The reason they don't support Monero at the moment is due to a few reasons, one of those being, proton doesn't want to be a main support for illegal activity which means while they may adopt it eventually, they will be a late adopter. Proton is for privacy, not anonymity.

[-] 0laura@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

cringe. monero is basically the only viable cryptocurrency. the rest is just for gambling.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago

So much for my plan of looking into a Proton mail account.

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