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[-] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 68 points 10 months ago

Business & Industry uses over 75% of electricity in Ireland. Residential energy usage really is not that much, in any country in the world.

Same with CO2, almost all of it is created by industries.

[-] el_abuelo@programming.dev 10 points 10 months ago

Don't worry - electricity also trickles down.

[-] benjhm@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago

Although not an expert on that specific country, I can be sure that ' almost all ' is very misleading, even if it gets a lot upvotes because people find it convenient to blame some big bad other. Even if you have specific data for electricity, don't forget a lot of CO2 is emitted by cars, and also by fuel to heat homes (including some peat in special case of ireland - and in that country a large fraction of GHG emissions is also methane from agriculture).

[-] smeeps@lemmy.mtate.me.uk 8 points 10 months ago

Also no one ever mentions that the industries are building products for the public. They don't just release CO2 and use electricity for fun lol

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Well, in the US, here's a decent breakdown by sector:

  • 30% industry
  • 31% residential & commercial
  • 29% transportation
  • 10% agriculture

I don't know what the breakdown is between residential and commercial, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's pretty even.

And here's data for Ireland:

  • 38% agriculture
  • 21% transportation
  • 14% energy
  • 11% industrial (combined mfg combustion and industrial)
  • 10% residential
  • 5% other

So yeah, unless you count agriculture as "industries," they are one of the smaller factors in Ireland, especially compared to other parts of the world.

[-] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago

Can we just cancel the whole "ai" thing? It was fun for a bit, now it's just problems.

The AI meme will crash eventually. When? Can't say. But eventually they'll move on to the next meme.

[-] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I'm sure they'll find something even more problematic to dump money into sooner or later.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think it's fair to say AI meme since there definitely is a meme component to it, but at the same time I think it's worth pointing out it's also not nearly entirely useless either like Web3.0/Blockchain/etc essentially was. There are a lot of cool and new things that are possible with "AI" that just weren't possible before, there is some utility to it. It is impressive to me and for context I'm a senior developer, so I don't necessarily get impressed as super easily as a layperson might.

[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 6 points 10 months ago

More AI you say? Can do!

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

Date centers need a rule that says they can only run off renewable energy.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 18 points 10 months ago

Why does the rule need to be specific to data centers? Why not just try to encourage renewable energy in general?

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

I really wonder how much large scale energy production we’d need if every building was required to have solar. I know we’d need some energy storage tech such as batteries but I’m focusing more on the generation part.

[-] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Requiring solar is good for certain regions, but it might be better to make this more generic for any renewables especially because there are areas that don't get a lot of sun.

For instance, California requires all newly constructed homes to have solar installed, but that wouldn't work too well for places that are mostly cloudy throughout the year, or for places like Alaska.

[-] VerticaGG 16 points 10 months ago

For whoever's interested in long form vid essays about likely root cause

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2R8q8GDwZ0

Looks like they have at least one more about Ireland but ive yet to watch that one.

As a tech professional, fuck AI, fuck Neoliberalism, and we need unions:

https://www.techradar.com/computing/i-watched-nvidias-computex-2024-keynote-and-it-made-my-blood-run-cold

[-] smeeps@lemmy.mtate.me.uk 11 points 10 months ago

There are some data centres in the UK that use the waste heat to heat the local swimming pool. Seems a good idea, we need compute and we need heat, why not do both at once?

Surely it's not too much of a stretch to have datacentres contributing to local district heating systems either?

[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

Every time there is a power shortage, they tell residential customers they are being wastrels and should turn their lights off...

Same for water.

[-] el_abuelo@programming.dev 7 points 10 months ago

Well yeah, because industry generates wealth while people's homes and comforts do not.

Not saying its right of course.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 10 points 10 months ago

Businesses use more power than people. They get it cheaper too.

[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I’m sure they’ll claim it’s not really an issue at all, immediately after jacking our rates up yet another time

[-] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 10 months ago

Eh, Ireland sheltered a bunch of tax elusion asshole companies, turns out those companies are not looking out for the common good. Not really a surprise.

Still a good bargain, all things considered.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

The future is in cold storage!

Hello AI, what do you know about planting tomatoes?

Yes, certainly!....you will find everything we know here 10.2.456 at your local SD card library.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 months ago

Is this any surprise?

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