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[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 70 points 6 months ago

"confuses" is different from "misspeaks" though…

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 29 points 6 months ago

I know my bar has dropped a lot, but he spoke for an hour and fielded questions. He was pretty damn coherent, and knew what the fuck he was talking about defending his foreign policy decisions, etc. it kinda sucks all of that is boiled down to he said the wrong name.

I want him to step aside for another candidate. His "bad debate night" was scary as fuck. But this article is ridiculous.

he spoke confidently on a range of complex issues from the tax code and trade policy to Russia and the Israel-Hamas war.

BUT....

[-] nekandro@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago

Were you and I watching the same presser? He had moments of brilliance, but his fumbles were apparent throughout the night.

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 9 points 6 months ago

I feel like people who said he had a good conference are either

  • back to covering for him or
  • have been caught in the "boiling frog" of Biden's long decline that they have a warped sense of what people expect from their president.

I watched maybe half of it. It was painful. He was mumbly. He misspoke. He lost his train of thought. His expressions and body language were stiff and unnatural. Occasionally he remembered some talking points and was able to regurgitate them without messing up too badly.

If the guy we saw last night was my waiter at a restaurant I would assume my food was going to arrive late, cold, and not be at all what I ordered.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

He sounded punch drunk.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 60 points 6 months ago

Yeah this is a bullshit headline. He said the wrong thing. Just way less concerning than what is implied.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well the headline isn't factually wrong, and no, 99% of any one actually watched the debate.

The headline was possible because of Biden. And honestly, this wasn't even his worst mistake of the press conference.

That god-awful final answer.. It was basically him saying he's too arrogant to step down in time for us to get a candidate into place that can win. He's losing in the polling now and refuses to acknowledge it.

I had him slightly in the W column prior to that final answer. He went back into the L column with that final answer.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 31 points 6 months ago

Another banger was "I have a higher approval rate in Israel than here"

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago

Oh fuck I forgot about that one.

Yes. You are very popular in a country which has become a global pariah and is why you have effectively lost support entirely with any one under the age of 30.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 months ago

It's almost like he's torpedoing his campaign on purpose. Optics wouldn't be as important if the US had mandatory voting, meaning even alienated voters would either vote Biden or Third Party more often than the Trump crowd, but he's killing voter interest in general.

2024 will be 2016 - 2.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

I mean he's been Presidenting in a vaccuum until now. Biden is clueless, and its only now that reality is catching up with him.

[-] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

So who are people under 30 supporting? Trump? Not voting or some third candidate also is a vote for Trump.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I mean, I want to take you seriously, but at the same time, I have a hard time believing that any one is this naive.

Its not, nor has it ever been, a binary choice. You may be broken internally an incapable of seeing as anything otherwise, but its not that way for most people.

This election is, and always has been, between Biden and the couch. There is no new information that we can learn about Trump that will stop his voters from voting for him.

No "Likely Biden" voter is ever going to vote for Trump. No Trump voter will ever vote for Biden. This dye was cast in 2015.

Biden needs to drive votership and most of what he's done in his campaign so far has been to drive votership away from him.

Biden needs to secure leftwing voting blocks like the youth vote. Its the youth vote that put him into office in 2020, along with black women in GA.

Instead, he has pushed the youth vote away with his straight up genocidal policies on Gaza, and fascist policies on free speech on college campuses.

*corrected, meant GA

[-] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

From what I know about the USA's system it is binary - while you technically have more than two candidates it'll be one of the major two (republican or democrat) who'll win. So not voting or voting for a third party (which has no chance of getting elected(?)) means you don't change anything, and if Trump wins without those blocks then that means you're indirectly supporting him, simply by not opposing him with the only realistic option you have.

Please correct me if I'm wrong

[-] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Thank you for asking, I personally love Chase Oliver https://votechaseoliver.com/ on the ballot in all 50, the establishment wants you to think its a waste while they support Brain Worm RFK who is only on 18 state’s ballots and say debates should only be Trump and Biden for clarity 🙄. Sir if they already silence us, why would you help them? And why would they even see the need to silence us as a plus?

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

It is a factually wrong headline.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago

No the headline is correct.

Biden walked off the stage and apparently people were screaming Zelensky instead of Putin so then Biden walked back and corrected it.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Ah yes, he actually thought that they are the same people and that Trump has actually been his VP. Yep. That. It's not a slip of the tongue, nope, it's advanced dementia. /s

[-] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 48 points 6 months ago

Don't disagree that he's embarrassingly old, but the gaffes were always part of the deal with Biden, going back to the 1990s.

[-] nekandro@lemmy.ml 28 points 6 months ago

Run Harris. Run Newsom. Run Obama. Run Kennedy. Hell, run Gore.

There's so many options here. This is the DNC's election to lose.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 6 months ago
[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 6 months ago

I assume that's who they mean, since Barack has already had two terms and his kids aren't old enough.

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Hear me out. I don't love him, but mayor Pete.

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 5 points 6 months ago

I was just wondering what it'd be like to have a McKinsey president.

I guess his version of the Project 2025 would be to outsource the entire federal bureaucracy to India?

[-] Esqplorer@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago

He was 1 level above an intern at McKinsey.

[-] ulkesh@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago

This is the DNC's election to lose.

As it was in 2016. And lost it they did. The DNC never learns their lesson, it seems.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

would u guys vote for me if they ran me

[-] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

Did he say that he's going to immediately turn the U.S. into a Theocratic Dictatorship? No?

Then I do not give a single fuck, and people that do are probably bots. Fuck off Billionaire newspaper.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

To call Zelenskyy “President Putin” at that critical moment was offensive and totally unacceptable.

Calling Kamala “Vice President Trump” is kind of hilarious though.

Both of these together paint a troubling picture. Why is Biden confusing people who are supposed to be his closest allies with those who are considered to be his bitter rivals? This was supposed to be his big press conference where he proves he’s still mentally fit to be president, and he totally blew it. Somebody get him outta there, Biden isn’t fit to be president and the sooner we can admit that and move on the better it will be for this country. The gaslighting in full denial of this is incredibly dangerous, and likely driven by whoever it is that’s actually in charge and wants to stay that way (all signs point to Jill Biden, who last I checked was not elected president.)

Apparently Biden has not had a full cabinet meeting since last year. These are the people who can invoke 25th amendment on him, and it’s looking extremely suspicious all of a sudden that he’s been avoiding them, and for such an insanely long period of time too!

For those of us who have had to support an elder family member through times of mental decline, the condition is extremely apparent now, and the administration can no longer hide it. Elders often resist or get angry when confronted about necessary changes, but it’s for their own good. In this case, it’s also so we can ward off a fascist takeover of the US. Come on dem leadership, it’s time to actually be the adults in the room and handle this.

[-] Bell@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

There are some situations that you just can't "spin" your way out of

[-] cupcakezealot 9 points 6 months ago

who cares; certainly not me. trump is a convicted felon who wants to usher in fascism and destroy the economy.

[-] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago

Putin can wax lyrical about Russian history going back millenia without notes. Biden can...

[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 2 points 6 months ago

"...well...anyway..."

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

If I was trying to throw the election, I really can't think of what I'd be doing differently right now.

[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And I forgot my girlfriends name for a minute the other day at dinner. But I got top 5 people in state for one of my final year school subjects

Are you hiring a sales person or a president.

Some of the world's dumbest liers are excellent at talking. Often the people you should be listening to though aren't as good

The fact that Trump thinks his golf score is important to America should tell you everything you need to know

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