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submitted 1 year ago by piusbird@pawb.social to c/furry@pawb.social

With all do respect to you land lovers i like my wings. But i'm worried do i count within the furry community. On the one hand my persona is an anthropomorphic bird, on the other i have feathers not fur

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[-] EgyptUrnash@pawb.social 15 points 1 year ago

I've been a dragon in this fandom since about 1995 and I don't think anyone has ever said I don't belong in the furry scene because I am covered in scales instead of fur.

If you like to present as some kind of animal person, then you are a furry.

[-] levicoyote@pawb.social 13 points 1 year ago

Yes, they count. As has already been said by others, “furry” when used to refer to the community is not limited to “creatures having fur” but is used broadly to cover all sorts of creatures including those with scales, feathers, etc.

[-] FlowerTree@pawb.social 10 points 1 year ago

Birds might lack fur, but that doesn't mean that they aren't part of our community. I mean, if dragon and shark fursonas can be part of the fandom, why wouldn't birds?

As Juniper puts it, Furry has always been a general umbrella term. The only limit as to what animal counts as part of our fandom is your imagination.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 10 points 1 year ago

The furry fandom is more about liking anthropomorpism and general animalistic features like tails and snouts (tho one doesn't have to have all of them) than fur specifically. Consider synths, for example, which are an accepted furry species despite not having fur, not even being animals or even biological creatures, and just kinda being shaped like some sort of anthro animal but not any species in particular. Birds definitely fit.

[-] Senil888@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, synths are definitely on the edge of what'd be considered furry. They're usually draconic or reptile-adjacent in style (from the many I've seen), but there's no hard and fast rule to what a synth looks like.

All part of the fun!

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they're called avians! And reptiles are called scalies. All of them fall under the greater furry community. :)

[-] juni@skein.city 8 points 1 year ago

I'd absolutely count Avians under Furry! Furry has always been a more general umbrella term in my book.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I would say yes, Furry just means anthropomorphic animals so birds do count as "furry". Though specifically they're usually referred to as Avians.

[-] Firefeet@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago

Birbs are good 👍

[-] Wander@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago

Absolutely!

[-] king_dead@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Yes absolutely

[-] Puffymumpkins@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

Since feathers are just modified scales, anthropology birds are by definition scalies

[-] HundaRaketisto@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago

In that case, early mammals evolved fur from their scales, so then all furries are scalies.

[-] Puffymumpkins@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

Good point, but birds only have one mass extinction separating them from lizards, whereas mammals have two.

Also, cursory Google search suggests that the consensus opinion is that hair and feathers are an example of convergent evolution, although the timeline is so tight that they could have split off from each other when mammals and dinosaurs split off from the therapsids.

[-] rosatherad@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I'm a bird too! Furry as furry can be!

[-] Helium@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Furries, Avians and Scalies :3 people used to use these terms more back in the day!

[-] levicoyote@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

That’s true. The scalies and avians were assimilated

[-] ingwiephoenix@drachennetz.com 3 points 1 year ago

I'd chirp you a yes. Though, more for fun than anything, I have been called a "featherly" before x)

Also - if you wonder what my species is, it's in the name and avatar ^v^

[-] takelgryph@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, and I will peck the FUCK out of anyone who argues otherwise.

[-] piusbird@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago
[-] FishfoxNuro@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

Anyone who likes anthro animals can be a furry.

Plenty of species have feathers, scales, rough or smooth skin, or even exoskeletons. There are also furries that don't even have a sona; it personally took me almost 6 years to decide on something because I'm so indecisive.

[-] KiranWells@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

Bird definitely count. Have you seen the Avali?

[-] HundaRaketisto@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

I feel like the general consensus is that "furry" refers to both all anthros (using this term for short because the alternative is super long) AND also just the furred ones. So yes, avians are furries, but they aren't furries furries (if that makes any sense at all)

[-] piusbird@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago
[-] RichByy@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago
[-] StarlightRose 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only difference as the labels in the fandom

Furry- general label for the community, also covered in fur or hair usually

Avian- birb

Scalie- scales and reptile

I may be wrong though, but that is my understanding

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