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[-] Teknikal@lemm.ee 113 points 1 year ago

I find it kinda funny Sony tried so hard to own the standard so many times thought they eventually got it but then the Internet made it irrelavent almost instantly.

I don't like Sony.

[-] original_reader@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago

Am with you. Their midrange phones still have headphone jacks, though. I like that.

[-] Teknikal@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

Yeah their phones do generally still do things like microsds etc which is very nice I also like the psp but I've bought so many Sony products that develop weird faults straight after the warranty and the fact they alway push propriety cards etc.

Its a weird company where divisions seem to actively sabotage each other I just don't trust them at all.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've never had a need to burn a blu-ray. When bd-r's hit the scene with their obscenely priced recording drives, it was only maybe a year or two before flash memory had already become cheap and fast enough that any volume of data large enough to justify a BD was better served on a 16/32gb thumbdrive unless it needed to be distributed in volume, and I've never needed to make enough identical copies of something to justify the $200-$300 that the first drives cost.

It sucks losing an option but I actually doubt most anyone will notice. 3rd party manufacturers will keep making disc's for a while anyway, Sony is far from the only company doing this technology.

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I use archival blurays for cheap, deep storage for decade plus usage, not something I'd trust to flash memory or even a hard drive. Tape is an option of course but that's pricey.

[-] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago

Don't fret, Verbatim will still be making recordable BD-Rs. However, this will mean that there will be no more 128GB BD-Rs, we'll be stuck with only 100GB BD-Rs (Sony is the only company that makes 128GB Blu-rays).

I recently ordered a pack of 128GBs from Japan. I'd recommend you do the same, because the prices are gonna skyrocket.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

May I ask what uses you have for them?

[-] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Backing up personal data, mostly stuff from my childhood that is irreplacable. Sure, I could just put them on a HDD, but then I'd have to replace it every 5-10 years. Data stored on Blu-ray can last a long time.

Data on hard drives also generally lasts a long time. Much longer than 5-10 years.

And make sure you're constantly monitoring those discs, disc rot is very much a thing for all optical medica.

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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

The 128GB blurays have always been very expensive. The smaller discs are cheaper per GB.

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[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Bluray disk cost 25$ for 50gb and usb flash drive cost 5$ for 64gb

[-] ciberConas3000@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Damn, a 50gb blu ray costs 2€ in my country.

[-] olutukko@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

for 35€ you can get 512gb flash drive. kinda insane to think about that. maybe even cheaper but that was just what I found from my local store

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yes, flash memory came a very long way, when current nodes of 3nm going to be old enough for mass producing growth memory, there's gonna be 5tb microsd cards probably, since we're already having 2tb ones https://www.tomsguide.com/news/the-worlds-first-2tb-microsd-card-is-here-what-you-need-to-know

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

the storage density growth is so mindboggling that I find myself hesitant to trust it lol. 2tb?

fuck me running

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[-] prole 6 points 1 year ago

How can I afford to buy Criterion Collection Blu-Rays for $14.99 if blu-ray discs cost $25?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Economy of scale and also slightly different, but related, media format. Criterion has them printed in bulk.

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[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's okay, in 75 years Japan's government will still be keeping them alive. That's why you can still buy floppy discs on Amazon.

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Japan just gave up the floppy (officially), but there will still be other legacy users.

Until VERY recently the US nuclear arsenal required 8" floppies. Disks that went out of favor in the early 70s because they can only spin for a few hours before they start to corrupt.

The one that most blew my mind was that my local Walmart only stopped selling blank BetaMax tapes in the mid 00’s. By the time the store was built they weren’t even selling movies on VHS anymore, but the blanks were still worthy of limited shelf space.

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[-] atmur@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

This is just blank writable discs, movies and TV shows on bluray will continue to be produced... for now.

[-] PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

As long as there are people for whom streaming compression isn't acceptable, there'll be a market for Bluray movies/TV shows.

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[-] corroded@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I really wish there was a viable alternative for physical backups. Blu-ray just doesn't have enough storage space, tape is expensive, and hard drives need to be periodically read.

I've read about holographic WORM media, but I just don't think there's enough consumer demand for the hardware and media to ever be as affordable as blu-ray.

Once upon a time, I could back up all my important data to a stack of DVD-Rs. How am I supposed to back up a 100TB NAS, though? The "best" alternative is to build a second NAS for backup, but that's approaching tape drive levels of cost.

[-] urda@lebowski.social 5 points 1 year ago

Checkout AWS S3 “Deep Glacier Archive”. It’s perfect for data you only “read” in recovery events, since you have to wait up to 12 hours to retrieve the data. I backup my Plex this way.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Me, with a 200 Terrabyte usb drive, wondering why this is an issue.

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

A 200TB USB drive doesn't exist. What are you talking about?

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago

Not going to put words in OP's mouth, and it's entirely possible they're either exaggerating, talking about a RAID array, or richer than God,

but the only place I know of to buy flash drives that big is Wish.com

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[-] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

I use BD-R for archival storage of important files. They're cheaper and easier than tape as well as small. I burn them in triplicate and throw them in the same case and as long as the same 3 bits don't corrupt I can recover. The shelf life on a blue ray sealed and stored well is a few decades which is better than most other media.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Where are you buying your Blu-rays? Every time I've looked into burnable BD-Rs they've been more expensive per gigabyte than a 3.5" SATA hard drive (which has the bonus of better data longevity and being rewritable).

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[-] piyuv@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

How often do you lend your drives to your friends? A cheap way to send big files without internet connection was paramount for sharing information.

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[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

25GB and 50GB disks written at blistering 10MB/s in the age of 100MB/s Gigabit Internet connected to storage (S3, Backblaze, etc. etc.) means that networks have completely obsoleted Blu Rays.

I'm surprised they still found a use of these things. Flash drives are also so much cheaper, faster, and more convenient.

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Good. Flash storage is everywhere now. Why go through an extra layer of proprietary hardware and DRM when you can have direct access to the video files which can be read on any platform?

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[-] Rooki@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

No no, these are for burning.

[-] rem26_art@fedia.io 8 points 1 year ago

Is this just Sony's own production of consumer writable Blu-ray discs, or is it like, Sony preventing other manufactures from producing them as well?

[-] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

It's just consumer writeable. Blu-ray movies will be fine, and other companies will be manufacturing consumer writeable Blu-rays as well.

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I mean, as long as there is a hard copy archive option out there this is ok (cloud is already flirting with copyblight).

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

At least they're not enforcing Memory Stick on us again.

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 5 points 1 year ago

Did anyone ever burn their blu ray discs? There has been so many better options like USB sticks and external hard drives ever since the launch of blu ray.

[-] philpo@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

Blue-Ray Discs are basically the only viable WORM (Write-Once-Read-Many) that is available to normal and small scale professional users. The cheapest alternative, Tandberg RDX is a few hundred bucks per TB. And these are far inferior in terms of protection against outside influences compared to BD media.

And considering that a lot of professional data (e.g. tax reports) are legally required to be saved on WORM in a lot of countries it is indeed an issue, even more so in times of crypto/ransomviruses. None wants to loose their precious baby or wedding photos to a untimely virus. And no, normal Dropbox/OneDrive is no proper backup. And USB drives/external harddrives degrade over time, especially if not used.

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yes, they are the best medium for long term backups, as optical discs should be fine for decades. Hard drives and USB sticks are liable to fail within a few years.

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