Betterbird, a Thunderbird fork and I installed it from AUR repo but it has a flatpak version too
i fear your best bet really is just using thunderbird or a fork of it and messing with themes.
I did have the same reaction on my first instal of thunderbird but after customizing it a bit i’ve come to like it
Thunderbird and K-9 (which will soon be Thunderbird mobile). I'm not a Thunderbird Stan or anything, but I was running into issues with Claws, Seamonkey, and Fairmail
Trying to get the hang of meli on my laptop & K-9 on (unGoogled) Android
Evolution, Thunderbird and KMail, depending on the system. Though I've had only trouble with Thunderbird and gpg signing with a yubikey. The others just work.
On Android I'm using FairMail.
I'm lazy - just gmail pinned in a tab on my browser on my Linux desktop, the browser is always open anyway. Default mail client on iOS/iPadOS.
I've used Thunderbird in the past. The redesign was nice but it's still a bit cludgy to use somehow, compared to gmail web.
Tuta's web client.
It gets the job done and I don't use email much any more.
I use eM, it has tons of options and the mail rules are next level.
No Linux version 😔
I'm using Thunderbird.
On my work computers, I don't want the email to be stored locally since they back up the entire system to the cloud for retention and compliance purposes, so I'm using Roundcube (webmail app) hosted on the email server itself. I self-host my email server.
I guess the question is, why do you need a client? I find most web interfaces to be sufficient, you can enable browser notifications, create an "app" so that it's in a stand-alone window, etc.
As another comment said, I just use the Proton web interface.
I guess the question is, why do you need a client? I find most web interfaces to be sufficient
Clients like Thunderbird download the mails for a local copy. That means, you can a) read and search your mails offline, b) backup all mails. That's not all. Such a client also: c) allows a unified interface to all different mail accounts from different providers in one view, d) better integration into your system, such as tray icons for notifications.
Everyone does their thing, so not saying you are doing it wrong, just giving you reasons to use an offline mail client; as you asked why.
Those are all totally fair considerations, just not requirements in my workflow. I'm coming at it from a personal use case, where I don't need offline access to my personal email, and I only have one email account to check (my Gmail is forwarded to my Proton mail).
My question was more to lead OP down the requirements gathering path, to evaluate their actual needs and if a client is actually required or if it's more of a "nice to have".
Thanks for laying out some of those advantages to a client though. Every user has their own needs and if offline access, multiple accounts, consistent UI, etc. are desired, then a client is certainly a great option.
I think this is a fair question. I haven't seen anyone mention the benefits of using a non-web mail client (OP mentioned Yubikey but 2FA isn't uncommon with web mail). I would actually consider using one if it gave me clean up options (e.g. haven't opened an email in 3 days and the sender is not in my address book move to Junk/Spam). Main reason I rarely look at email is that it's 90% stuff I have no desire to read and marking things as spam is a never ending cycle.
I know it's not an answer you expect but I just use the official web client. I hate how there's 2+ sidebars and a lot of features I don't need in standalone clients. I just need inbox, spam, trash and probably search.
Don't know if this has been said but you are not supposed to use the yubikey on your mail client. Google recommends you use an application password for email clients. As someone who has 5 yubikeys for different services I know this sounds unsafe but is the only way I've been able to use some of the mail programs with Google. The other option would be to enable another 2fa (maybe auth codes with Yubico Authenticator) and use that on the mail programs.
For Google I ended up using web client and fido2 (and another yubikey as backup and another as auth code generator) and my work requires Outlook but they also ask me to change passwords each month and input them on different platforms that don't support f2 and that breaks a few things for me so I opted for Yubico Auth and use my yubikey instead of Microsoft Authenticator or Google Authenticator.
I was using Thunderbird, but I have had a number of issues with it. Crashing seems to happen whether I use the Flatpak or install from AUR.
I have switched back to using web clients for my mail for the time being.
I have never had thunderbird crash. Not questioning what you say but perhaps its sonsthing else? Did u try deleting thubderbird data and starting fresh ?
I am using debias as os , and never had a problem with thunderbird, did you used recently? I am not against web, but i manage 5 emails so no way the web is a option for me. Also i start to use the rss from thunder and is cool.
Why do you install Thunderbird from the AUR? It's available on the official repository in Archlinux repos (and all distros based on). And updates are extremely quick. Can't say anything about the Flatpak version, because I never used it other than "native" installation. I am using it since over a decade and don't remember having crashes, maybe once in a while (1 time per year maybe fault of something else). I actually use Thunderbird with 5 accounts from different providers, plus use it as my RSS feed reader, because its stable for me.
I know saying "it works for me" won't help you, but maybe its an indication that something else is wrong. I would recommend to install it from official repository instead.
I'm using it on Windows at work and I was also surprised how often it just gets stuck. Deleting the database did help for some time, but then it came back every time I'm sending an email.
If anyone knows a client that can snooze mail on Proton and Gmail, I’d love to know about it. Until then I’m stuck using the web interfaces and their official phone apps.
mu4e+mbsync+msmtp
I’m using Evolution on Arch and Debian and works just fine for me.
I use super boring Claws Mail for my personal email. I handle my contacts with Khard and calendars with Khal.
I don't use a Yubikey though.
Thunderbird is very nice and lightweight compared with outlook. Picks up email settings more quicker and is much simpler to use than outlook. Recommended to all my clients.
Icedove (Thunderbird) works well enough for me. Maybe the reason it's "old fashioned" is because it works well enough that it doesn't need to be changed that often.
In the proprietary software world we're used to UI's being redesigned on a regular basis for no user benefit.
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