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We need a larger one. Yes, for the last time. Pleeeeeeeeeease!
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Saturn is one step ahead of us
Perfect! A bunch of raw materials are already there! We just need to refine them and assemble them into a particle collider.
They'll be gone in another 15 million to 400 million years.
The two first are the same?
Ops, I meant the Proton Syncrotron.
It'll still be called the Future Circular Collider when it's shut down after forty years of service. You gotta commit to a scale in the proposal, like the Overwhelmingly Large Telescope.
Chucky McParticleface
Lead engineer, Dr. Slab Bulkhead.
Orbital collider when?
Maybe that's the real Kardashev scale...
Just one more collider bro I swear just this one and we'll fix the standard model bro just one more I swear
The last time? aaaahahahaa... no. There are several phenomenon that require energy levels that only stellar objects can throw off. They'll be asking for bigger colliders even when they're dedicated space stations firing what would be equivalent to weapons of mass destruction at each other.
Unless scientists can figure everything out just by observing space, there will always be a demand for a bigger collider. Since scientists like to control variables and don't like waiting for random events that they then almost have to reverse-engineer to explain (without most all of the sensitive detectors built in to these colliders), there will always be a demand.
I said 10y, but yes it will need a lot more colliders.
“We just want to smash two little planets together at 99% speed of light!”
I’m inclined to let them. I wanna see that,
Larger Hadron Collider
Why does a larger loop mean better results?
More size = more speed and more particles colliding = more bang = more data = for example possibility for dark matter and/or heavier particles to be found.
Is we even sure Geneva hasn’t already been overrun by the Combine?
No, that would be Bulgaria
I like how it went from second to third picture. Borders? Who needs borders?
Of course they need a bigger one. They haven’t spontaneously created a world-ending black hole yet.
(Actually? They should build one looping around the meridians. Maybe build a turret at each pole. You know. In case aliens show up. )
Unironically, getting to watch short-lived black holes explode could be really, really useful.
But no, the larger one on the picture isn't anything near big enough for that.
Didn’t stop some fearmongering from the last one that went operational.
“The new supercollider could cause BlAcK hOLeS; ExPeRtS SaY!!!1!1!1!1!2!?3!!4!!!”
Honestly, I would love a slow-mo guys style video of a bunch of ~~nerds~~very professional researchers smashing microsingularities into random ~~fruit~~ targets.
I assume it would be fairly boring without some massive magnification… but ya know….
I can probably look this up but how does size effect the result in these things?
The limiting factor is the bend. The subatomic particles want to go in a straight line. A magnetic field is used to bend the beam around into a circle. The faster the particles are moving however, the more energy is needed to bend them. A larger circle has less bend. This lets you get your particles faster.
Since E^2 = M^2 C^4 + P^2 C^2 (the full form is E=MC^2 ). If you can force the particle to stop rapidly, then you can force the energy from momentum into mass. This is done by hitting 2 beams into each other. The faster the beams, the more energy is available to convert to mass.
Most of the time, this creates a lot of mundane particles. However, ever so often it creates something interesting. They rapidly decay into mundane particles, but the shower they create tells us a lot about them. The catch is that all the energy needs to be present at once. You can't use more particles, you need to make them move faster.
As for why. The more particles we have to study, the more we can figure out about the underlying rules. We have a number of theories. They all agree at lower energy levels, but disagree at higher energy levels. By knowing which is correct, we can pry deeper into the workings of reality.
Thanks!
Thanks! I'm personally in favor of doing things for knowledge's sake. That said, what is the stated practical benefit when some government body is writing a check?
There's a story, though I'm not 100% sure on how true it was. Queen victoria did a royal visit to the new lab overseen by Michael Faraday. She asked him what use this new "electricity" was? His response was along the lines of "mam, we're not completely sure, that's why we are researching it.
As for actual uses. It could give us the theoretical key to room temperature super conductors. It could give us a foundation for exotic space drives. It could help crack new forms of fusion reaction.
Ultimately, it's a foundational block. What gets built on there is hard to predict. By comparison, GPS is not an obvious extension of relativity. However, without an understanding of relativity, GPS would basically be useless. It would drift km/day
More size = more speed and more particles colliding = more bang = more data = for example possibility for dark matter and/or heavier particles to be found.
Honest question: why is a larger collider even needed? Just make the particles run more loops around your track.
this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2024
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