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[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 91 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The problem with Babylon Bee is that conservatives aren’t smart enough to know it’s satire. So now we have to rebut and defend against the bullshit they read there as if it were real.

[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The Babylon Bee also makes articles under the guise of satire in an attempt to take advantage of this very fact. They're basically a misinformation source that calls themselves satire because they know their base will take them seriously, but they can deny it. They're basically Fox News calling themselves the onion.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Yep, they are not satire at all, recently a video from them popped up in my feed, that's about gender reassignment surgery, there was nothing satirical or funny about it

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 5 months ago

Entertainment. They said they can't be sued because no one would take them seriously because they aren't news, they are "entertainment." They won.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 5 months ago

That was fucking ridiculous. As if there's not ample evidence that millions of people take Fox News seriously.

[-] IcePee@lemmy.beru.co 10 points 5 months ago

I think calling conservatives "dumb" is needlessly inflammatory, and what's worse, is it's incorrect. They just fall for a common human failing: confirmation bias, amongst other well known fallacies.

[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 43 points 5 months ago

"They're not dumb, they're just worse at processing information than their other fellow humans."

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[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's not our fault reality scares conservatives. It's their fault for refusing to make friends with what they cannot change. If the unknown scares them so much, what they should do is get familiar, not hostile.

People who make bad and wrong decisions deserve nothing positive. They deserve to learn why they are bad and wrong.

[-] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago
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[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago

…. Which is why we call them dumb.

[-] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

There is such a thing as self controlled ignorance (or whatever its called), conservitives use it all the time. Someone reminded me what thin excuses manifesting as jokes look like and why they are used.

[-] BehindTheBarrier@programming.dev 36 points 5 months ago

Pretty sure that site is satire, iirc with some right leaning bias but my memory is vague.

So it's political ads, but at least fake politics :P

[-] ech@lemm.ee 80 points 5 months ago

"Satire". That site is as subtle with its propaganda as Trump is. This is just pushing the stole election bs, paid for to be on the front page no matter what.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 59 points 5 months ago

Correct, it's supposed to be The Onion but conservative.

It's hard to tell sometimes because conservatives suck at comedy.

[-] Fern@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Indeed, the Babylon Bee is very cringe

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Conservative humor: trip a child and laugh when it is injured.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

if you think Babylon Bee is satire I recommend you watch this https://www.youtube.com/shorts/U2Srxl7bw6c

and then tell me how it is anything but thinly veiled right-wing propaganda

edit: or this https://youtube.com/shorts/fo4ly63TJNw?si=zQg5iTQC5MYp4pYT

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

I could be convinced that the first one is satire about what conservatives think the country is turning into, some real Tony Zaret shit

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[-] Alto@kbin.social 16 points 5 months ago

BabylonBee is a satire site

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 5 months ago

it's like The Onion except strong right wing christian extremist bias

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago
[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 months ago

idk I'd say the OP headline is technically satire, it just falls flat because the thing being satirized (Biden rigging the election) is not true and blatant misinformation.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Well, sure they have reasonable doubt, but then you watch something like this: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/U2Srxl7bw6c

and well, you know, hard to deny what they are doing...

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

To be clear I don't think satire, political propaganda, and bigotry are mutually exclusive things. I'm not saying I think babylon bee is satire as a way of defending it, just that it mostly meets the definition.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.

Don't think it fits if it's "exposing" something that's intentionally misleading

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

I don't think the use of the word "expose" in that sentence is meant to assert that the core of satire is that it must be right. Satire is a type of media/expression, it would make little sense to have a taxonomy of media where what genre something is depends on the personal political affiliations and beliefs of the observer, where saying what genre something is in is a declaration of those beliefs.

Why object to calling it satire? It's obviously closely copying the format of other media primarily known by that label, I don't think there's any other term that works as well to describe what sort of thing it is.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

The Ye 2020 tattoo got a big laugh out of me tbh

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[-] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 5 months ago

BabylonBee is right wing propaganda that uses "satire" as a shield to deflect criticism

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 1 points 5 months ago

I’m aware.

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Of course he gave a sizeable lead with them, his base never threatened to kill them.

[-] ominouslemon@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

It's the Babylon Bee. Not spam, not an ad. Maybe shit, but still

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I would put something that’s only “funny” because we all agree Biden stole the election amirite, in a different category. It’s like racist jokes; I don’t think the supposed funniness of it makes it suddenly harmless.

[-] ominouslemon@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Oh, definitely agree with you on that one. I was only defending the right of a platform to suggest content to its users, regardless of what that content is

[-] No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de 11 points 5 months ago

Reddit shows you communities that you are not subscribed to in your subscription feed.

The idea is to show you new communities you might be interested in.

The question is whether it is just doing it on the base of an algorithm or if you can pay to have communities recommended more often

[-] ominouslemon@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Reddit shows you communities that you are not subscribed to in your subscription feed.

Yeah, like I said, not spam and not an ad. It's just an internal algorithmic recommendation

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 5 points 5 months ago

It was an ad though. I couldn’t do anything to get rid of it, it wasn’t simply a suggested community post in the app.

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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Is this appearing on feeds that don't include r/babylonbee? Shouldn't there be some sort of an ad indicator if so?

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 7 points 5 months ago

Yeah, it didn’t have the 3 dot menu to show less posts about this or whatever. It was like an ad that I couldn’t get rid of via any method in the app. It wasn’t simply a post on the sub. I don’t visit that sub, showed up in my curated feed.

[-] als 6 points 5 months ago

okay, why repost it here then?

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I get that, but this particular community is about Reddit. You're gonna see reddit-related content here.

[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

I already get that on Lemmy for Biden. 🙄

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

So now you're giving them even more exposure by sharing them here?

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Well that's what you get for using new. Switch back to old.

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 4 points 5 months ago

This was in the app. No choice anymore.

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