Opinion: When you are trying to build a community it is more important to use whatever platform your users can be found on than to be a purist.
but discord is simply less accessible than any other option. I can't even login without identifying 25 bicycles lmao
That’s just not true. I’m no discord fan but less accessible? They have an app for the mobile platforms as well as pc/mac, and browser-based support as well.
But oh no, they have a captcha!!! So much less accessible!!! The fuck you talking about
Logging into a non-indexible proprietary service just to be able to read the documentation definitely does not contribute to accessibility.
And often the documentation is nowhere to be seen.
Nonsense! All you have to do is individually search each channel on the discord server and you just might find a brief thread discussing your issue 6 months ago, and then you just have to scroll for three minutes to find the comment with the resolution
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If I can't read or even search it without creating an account then it's pretty useless as an information source. Same issue with Twitter and Instagram.
Putting everything on discord makes information unsearchable via search engines, which is objectivily not great. This recent habit is contributing to killing the web.
On a more subjective note, I just don't like it. On the top of my head : Confusing interface, wont' shut up about nitro, requires a phone number.
It's kind of stupid this even has to exist tbh
Opinion: Not if that community advertises itself to know/care about open source. Using a proprietary, privacy unfriendly service which uses predatory marketing to get people to spend money on bs stuff and arbitrarily paywall functionalities is both anti open source and anti people. Its enabling those companies. One could maybe argue for a strict bridge which only server to connect those who resist foss platforms.
Counterpoint: If said community is about a certain type of software, decisions over the type of platform matter more than popularity within teenagers. Coherence is important.
Well, i can't be there because the only provider doesn't accept my (mandatory) phone number.
trying to build a community
I honestly think that's the big part there. You can build a great app but it doesn't matter if no one is using it and you don't get feed back or it's not shared around.
So, here we are trying to use the newest virtual 3rd space to create a community so that there is people will feel engaged in the product and share it around to add more.
But that's also an issue with discord. It wants to be a social space more than a useful space and it usually gets entirely dominated by a few users with others less inclined to add in. It's also accessible but not easy necessarily to stumble into if you are outside of the community trying to look into it more.
It just does the wrong job, slower and less efficient than old school forums or wikis, but it's the tools we have to use in this less efficient connected Internet of the now.
Set up a Matrix space, bridge the channels to Discord. Everyone wins.
(But don't use IM outside of its useful scope regardless)
if you're trying to build a chatroom then any chat software goes but if you're trying to build a community you should probably use something searchable and indexed, like real community software
also i find it laughable that users must already be on such platform, by your logic all communities should be mailing lists
Project wiki >>>>>>>>...>>>>> discord >> communication via carrier pigeons
I think you're being a little unfair, communication via carrier pigeons is a valid solution as it outpaces IPv4/IPv6 carriers to this day
while yes, there are many BETTER alternatives already disponible
Then it sounds like all that's left to do is get 150 million people to use them.
Then don't brag about being 100% FOSS supporter...
Also 150M people may use it, 8 billion people can't index it or do an advanced search, so fuck them.
People did improve society, they made Matrix and XMPP.
The seatbelts already exist, you just need to use them.
The logo and "join our Discord" text are more than half cut off for me. Is that the original cropping, or is it a client (Jerboa) issue?
it's intentional
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand cropped memes. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of memetics and linguistics most of the jokes will go over a typical reader's head. There's also the high contrast color pallette, which is deftly woven into the message. Lemmy users understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike cropped memes truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in longing for the bottom half of the text, "Join our Discord". I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as the meme's genius wit unfolds itself on their smartphone screens. What fools..
The fact that this is the top comment sends a funny message about the Lemmy community as a whole.
Then ...
Join discord
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To be fair: the cropping makes it hard to spot.
I believe that was intended. It's a way to "hide" the punchline on an image so it's not obvious at the first glimpse
Where matrix or/and xmpp
I see this point a lot and I don't get it at all. You can do something awesome, free and open-source but use tools that aren't, especially when we're talking about community building. Sure, you can do your outreach exclusively on Mastodon or Farcaster, but the most eyes just happen to be on closed platforms, so it'd just be self-sabotage. Doing the only thing that makes sense doesn't make you a hypocrite.
I said "future" hehe
Which project is this?
Virtually all of new projects created after certain years. Younger devs prefer setting up a discord server first than setting up a documentation site/wiki. I feel old.
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