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submitted 1 year ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/climate@slrpnk.net

While a Trump presidency couldn’t slam the brakes on the E.V. transition, it could throw enough sand in the gears to slow it down. And that might have significant consequences for the fight to stop global warming.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 44 points 1 year ago

How much greenhouses gasses could be reduced if we just glued Trump's mouth shut?

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

Honestly, his mouth is his biggest asset. If he didn’t have that mouth, more conservatives and independents would vote for him.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

I think you mean liability unless I’m just being a dummy

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I was being sarcastic when I said asset. My sarcasm let go half way through the post

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Ha all good

[-] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

If you slam the brakes on an EV, it’s just going to generate more electricity. Good luuuck

[-] LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I own a Volt. But let's stop saying that EVs are going to stop global warming. Do they help after years of being on the road? Sure a little. But until China stops burning coal, Saudi Arabia quits drilling for oil, factory dairy farms shut down.

People over paying for a car isn't doing a damn thing.

Are they fun to drive? Yes. Can you save a few bucks on gas? Yep sort of. (Thanks new registration taxes) But other than that EVs are not saving the world. That's not even thinking about the mining required to make batteries, or the copper needed for the motors.

We need to hold these super polluters accountable, and stop expecting the little guy to bail us out of the problems they created.

[-] br3d@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

And you don't see any link between ditching your ICE car and "Saudi Arabia quits drilling for oil"? Better to ditch your ICE car for no car, of course, but if you HAVE to have one, the smallest EV you can get away with is a step towards stopping that oil drilling. If everyone did it, that drilling would change dramatically

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago

That’s not even thinking about the mining required to make batteries, or the copper needed for the motors.

Yeah, but... that stuff isn't going away. In a couple decades when an EV's worn out, all the materials will still be there ready for recycling. It's not like coal and oil where we dig them up and then set them on fire and they're gone.

[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, that coal and oil is still there too. Just hanging around in the air.

[-] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

You’re totally right I just want to mention one of their benefit which is the markedly decreased emissions from a smog standpoint! Some cities really struggle with this problem.

But from a climate change perspective you’re right.

[-] fadhl3y@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

Can EVs reduce local emissions, and lead to improved air quality? Is air quality something we should be concerned about?

[-] Muffi@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

EV's are also just as devastating to collective infrastructure as CE cars. They also won't change the fact that most packaging and plastic is still made from oil. They are a temporary patch, not a solution.

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

"Slam" and "shred" in the same headline FFS

[-] General_Shenanigans@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

“Slam” was used too acceptably, so they had to come up with another.

[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Does he mean he's going to shred the 100% tariff? That seems to be core of biden's ev policy.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The core policies are:

  • A subsidy which targets cheaper EVs to not-super-rich and limits it to cars with key components made in the US
  • An emissions rule which will effectively force a significant fraction of cars sold to be EVs in a few years
  • subsidies for new factories

Trump will surely get rid of those.

The tariff he hasn't really weighed in on; he seems to think of himself as a mercantilist, so he might keep it.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Until bird flu somehow gets called Chyna virus.

[-] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

To be fair maybe he will also reverse the part where Biden removed eligibility from EV’s for the Tax credit that aren’t sourced from America.

Only bad thing he could do is remove the emissions regulations which weren’t even harsh.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Great, let Trump and musk blow each other

's ambitions to hell.

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