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[-] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 71 points 5 months ago

It’s actually racist not to cast a white man if you think about it – which I haven’t, obviously.

Excellent

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 51 points 5 months ago

I give 2 shits what the doctor is I just miss liking the show lol

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

I feel that lore-wise, the doctor changing sex was a bigger test of suspension of disbelief. But they prepped for it by having the Master do it. The Master has previously spent time being a walking corpse, so that is a fairly straight line of baby steps to get there.

Once that's been established, changing race is nothing. And arguably the doctor has shown a not insignificant amount of racial diversity already to prove it's not impossible.

The show just sucks for a variety of other reasons.

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You don't watch Dr Who because they cast women and black men as the main character

I don't watch Dr Who because i have hated the piss poor writing since Moffat took over

We are not the same

Yes i am aware RTD is back, he had four episodes to bring me back to the franchise (three with my favourite Doctor) and i only kind of liked one of them.

and that Goblin episode... wtf was that? Dumb... that's what it was

I thought i hated Matt Smith until i saw him in something that wasn't written badly. Capaldi could have been a fantastic doctor if the writing wasn't so shit. I gave up before i got to Whittaker so have no opinion of her tenure

[-] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

She's a fantastic actress that had horrible writing. Also, she really aped Tennant's Doctor's mannerisms more than making her own, though I'm not sure how much of that was within her control.

Watch Broadchurch if you want to see them in something good~

[-] Naboo_calls_for_aid@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

Yes, so much so! Thank you, when I heard 10 was returning for a special I got so excited I started binging starting back at capaldi since that's where I'd stopped. I didn't make it through his tenure before the special aired. I was so disappointed in that first part of the special that I didn't bother finishing capaldi or watching the next part of the special.

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

something something flying sharks and the moon is an egg is all i remember from Capaldis era

Dumb...

DUMB....

so much wasted opportunity

[-] Meissnerscorpsucle@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

WOT having racial diversity in a village where the book made a huge deal about the fact that everyone looks the same due to isolation and inbreeding. That I had an issue with. This is stupid. It is well established that the doctor can come back looking like anything.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

a village where the book made a huge deal about the fact that everyone looks the same due to isolation and inbreeding.

Two particular families were called out as marrying into one another often, not the entire village. In fact I feel like Robert Jordan generally does the opposite of what you describe here - he goes out of his way to uniquely describe a ton of Emond's Field residents, and gave them all pretty varied appearances. Heck, two of the main characters, Mat and Perrin, are different as can be in appearance, aside from the fact that they both have dark hair.

Anyways, either way, even if what you're describing is accurate, it's still not a good excuse to get upset that they casted dark skinned actresses for Egwene and Nynaeve.

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago

Especially given that they're all descendants of people that lived in one of the biggest cities of the time.

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[-] Ballistic_86@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

A similar thing is happening with the new Assassins Creed game. Lots of people trying to make every argument against a black male protagonist without just saying they are racist/white supremacist. I’m sure the game is bad, the last several Assassins Creed games were pretty bad. But blaming this one “historical accuracy” or Ubisoft “pushing an agenda” is an intentional (or maybe unintentional) attempt to justify white supremacy.

[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I can't tell if Japanese gamers are genuinely frustrated with the inclusion of Yasuke or if right wingers are comment/review bombing the Ubisoft Japan YouTube account's upload of the trailer.

Apparently a lot of the angry comments read as if they've been put through Google Translate and aren't actually in Japanese.

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[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 19 points 5 months ago

The character is great. The acting is mostly great. The stories are stupid as fuck.

[-] bane_killgrind@kbin.social 8 points 5 months ago

Yeah it's a kids show dude

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[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

They always have been. Next step is realising that even though they're stupid as fuck they're still pretty enjoyable.

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[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 18 points 5 months ago

The real tragedy is he's not a red head.

[-] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I stopped watching Dr Who years ago, because the writing was terrible. The Doctor also suffers from Silver Age Superman Syndrome -- they are so overpowered and know everything and are basically infallible. Boring. I don't care what colour or gender they are, just get better writers.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There's cases where I will play devil's advocate for such asshats. Some comic-book events feature a black Superman, and that raises questions about whether Kryptonians coincidentally match every ethnic group on Earth, or if they've got some skin colors that aren't an option for humans, or if there's some imprinting transformation wiggle-room when they show up as babies on rocketships. Remember that Supes works with a dude from Mars - cosmically our next-door neighbors - and his ass is green.

And for the constant murmur of Idris Elba maybe playing James Bond, I have to point out the sliding window of ambiguous canon. From Dr. No until Die Another Day, the previous film was definitely the same guy, probably, and beyond that ehhh don't worry about it. It was completely unreasonable that Pierce Brosnan during the handover of Hong Kong could be the same man as Sean Connery during the Cuban missile crisis - but there was no hard cutoff. You could suspend disbelief, movie by movie, and never really think about it. Did a character change? Did some details shift? Retcons happen, why worry. Don't ask what movie Bruce Wayne and his parents were seeing. For forty years, 007 was played by 6'1" commonwealth blokes with light skin and dark hair, and the unspoken through-line is that audiences can be convinced all white actors look alike. Casting anyone else would require acknowledging that the codename can be transferred - or starting a new continuity. (Admittedly less of an issue since the Daniel Craig films pretty solidly cover a new continuity with yet another 6'1" commonwealth bloke with light skin and blond hair.)

But... Doctor fucking Who? They're shapeshifters. Every single Gallifreyan gets a dozen chances (or a dozen ish, evidently) to completely scrobble their appearance while maintaining a continuous personality. Even their fucking accents can change. Any losers sincerely whining about this are being bigots about an aggressively queer and accepting production. Even the original run started with an educational bent and tried to be progressive for the betterment of its audience.

The people this article mocks might as well kvetch about Star Trek being kind of preachy.

[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 13 points 5 months ago

Mocking the minority of people who hold these opinions just gives them more attention than they deserve. No one relevant actually cares that the character is being played by a black actor. As always, the majority of complaining is coming from conservative trolls who take their anti-woke brigade to literally any film or TV series that has cast minorities in leading roles. It's just the same people doing it every time, they are not actually fans of any of these things and were never going to watch them anyway.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah I remember reading similar headlines when Jodie was announced as the next Doctor. Same assholes, different day. I’m more concerned that the first few episodes have had terrible writing.

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Space Babies was OK. I liked the bit where the Doctor stared dead into the camera and explained the allegory. That was funny.

The rest have been a load of wank. I had hoped that a bit of time off might have curbed some of RTD's excesses, but alas.

And Moff's script just seemed ... tired. Like he just couldn't do it any more. Blah blah, arms suppliers are bad, fish fingers and custard, love will save the day, something something atheism, ... .

[-] DaSaw@midwest.social 10 points 5 months ago

I just hope they eventually cast some fully Britishized actor originally out of Hong Kong... one trained in certain things Hong Kong actors are known for. I want a kung fu Doctor. :p

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 months ago

Just thinking of the running scenes through random spaceships being spiced up with some wall runs and flying rotating kicks and it is glorious.

[-] Flummoxed@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

You have watched the Pertwee era right? Actually, on second thought, if you really like kung fu, don't watch Pertwee 😁

[-] Minarble@aussie.zone 3 points 5 months ago

You can’t expect Venusian Kung Fu to be similar to Earth Kung Fu

[-] Flummoxed@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

You are completely right, hence my detraction. Very different, especially in light of physics.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 7 points 5 months ago

I miss sci-fi stories written by better writers and can't get behind this super special nonsense fantasy.

God I wish even our shows weren't monopolies now of old land holders.

Who cares what an alien looks like other than the people that want it to be relatable for some reason instead of the companion

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah, well, blame Dudley Simpson for suggesting The Doctor was infinitely old when he wrote The Brain of Morbius back in 1976.

Or blame Douglas Adams for making The Doctor's interference necessary for all life on Earth to begin when he wrote City of Death in 1979.

Or blame Stephen Gallagher for making The Doctor's interference necessary for The Big Bang to happen when he wrote Terminus in 1983.

I can come up with plenty of other examples that show that The Doctor has been super special for a very, very long time.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 5 months ago

The doctor is always a deus ex machina. That's not the problem. Time lords as a creation are a black box to do whatever you want with now they aren't even that.

And look at all those names other than Moffat and Davies. This season is literally entirely RTD.

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[-] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago
[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 months ago

Never knew his first name.

[-] David_Eight@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Comparing mutants to "aliens" is boarding on anti-mutant hate speech. SMH

[-] kemsat@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I feel dumber for having read that person’s thoughts.

[-] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago
[-] kemsat@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Lmao shit, I got got. Didn’t even notice

[-] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

At least some of the Time Police from Superjail are black-coded as I believe this clip shows https://youtu.be/DVyBG_aNFLE

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

They can't be ginger. That is the only unbreakable rule in Dr. Who.

[-] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

!remindme 7 years

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