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[-] vinceman 156 points 6 months ago

Everytime I start to really disagree with things like heritage zoning I see something like this.

[-] MethodicalSpark@lemmy.world 196 points 6 months ago

This has been floating around the internet for some time.

The funny part is that heritage zoning is the reason the addition looks the way it does. The upper floor was inaccessible and stairs needed to be added. Local regulations state that any additions must be visually distinct from the original structure so this monstrosity was the result.

Look up Caldwell Tower in Scotland for more information.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 64 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Why the fuck would additions need to be visually distinct?

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 81 points 6 months ago

Here is the episode of The Restoration Man that documented the project - they go into the planning side of this in-depth because it's really a head-scratcher. The owner tried many times to get planning for more subtle alternations but they kept getting knocked back because it has to be distinctive enough that it's clear what is the old building and what are the new additions. What you see is the result of that messy process.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago

That's dumb as fuck, literally even if it was brick you'd be able to tell from the weathering of the original stone. NIMBYs are fucking idiots.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago

if it's so important that we must be able to tell when it was built, just fucking carve the date into each brick lmao

[-] Damage@feddit.it 14 points 6 months ago

Feels like the owner had enemies in the local administration

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[-] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 54 points 6 months ago

Maybe to not be misleading about what is original and what is new

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

I think you could tell when it goes from stone to plastic.

[-] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 39 points 6 months ago

I work in stone conservation and for the body that dictates these regulations, even if it was built out of stone it would be required to be visually distinct. The only exception is if it were reinstatement of an original feature that had been demolished or decayed to the point that it had to be removed and fully rebuilt. In that case every effort should be made to source the stone from the same quarry, and the same mortar mix should be used.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 6 months ago

An easy way to do that is make the addition not flush, or use a different kind if masonry. The linked documentary includes an interview with the local planning council who recommended finding a local architect with expirience to do it.

Instead the chrap English bastard just used the cheapest options he could find in Essex and wore the council down to approve this monstrosity.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I'd call this 'malicious compliance'.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago
[-] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago

Then....what did you mean?

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Even if it went from grey stone to grey plastic siding, you could tell when it goes from stone to plastic. That should be enough to meet their "different" criteria, but not be such an outrageous eyesore.

[-] Steve@startrek.website 8 points 6 months ago

I cant understand why that would be a bad thing

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Maybe, in case the next renovation is due, you know for sure which parts are to be preserved and which can be removed. However, some craftsman or architect doing that should be able to tell the difference between modern boards and windows and ancient ones without relying on the help of white plastics or baby blue paint.

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[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Local regulations: "any additions must be visually distinct from the original structure."

Castle owner: "ok. So we'll glue my grandma's blue-siding house to the castle."

Local regulations: " No, not like THAAAAT"

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Why on earth white plastic windows and baby blue paint?

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

Budgeting? White PVC windows are cheapest, you pay extra for colors.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I know.

However, if you own a cultural heritage building, the c.h. office has a lot of saying about each and every modification done, especially on the outside, so I doubt it's due to financial issues.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 12 points 6 months ago

This mess is because the planning authorities rejected more subtle additions and insisted on something that is distinct from the original building, which is what they got.

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[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 51 points 6 months ago

only plus I can see is that the renovation is visibly distinguishable – they’re not trying to pass it off as a “restoration” …

[-] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 35 points 6 months ago

Another comment ITT claims that that's exactly why they did it this way-- Regulations say it must have that property.

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[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I remember when this hit the news and do hope it's been redone since.

edit: no updates on the Scottish Castle Association since 2012 and TripAdvisor photos show it unchanged other than some weathering.

edit2: Here is the episode of The Restoration Man that focused on the tower and it explains the planning process that led to this monstrosity.

[-] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

Looks like something from Monty Python and Holy Grail

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 5 points 6 months ago

Well it was filmed in the Scottish Lowlands not a million miles away (48 miles from Doune Castle).

[-] Kethal@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It would have been nice if they pointed out which part was renovated so I didn't need to scour the picture to find it.

[-] Jahuffine@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

I need a useless red circle to find it

[-] ElCanut@jlai.lu 10 points 6 months ago

Sorry, I will write a detailed alt next time

[-] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 25 points 6 months ago
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[-] TheWonderfool@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

No worries, I hate it enough for both

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[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

Where the President of the HOA lives

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

I was thinking: whichever 'lord' owns the tower - that's where his mother-in-law lives.

[-] Tweak@feddit.uk 20 points 6 months ago

This makes me want to sing the Tetris theme.

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Prime location, good bones.

[-] Raab@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

"what's next, renovation?"

"AND COVER UP THESE BONES?"

[-] isyasad@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

People are such perfectionists when it comes to buildings. I love this image; the patchwork aesthetic needs less hate. Yeah it looks silly, but why should it look serious? I wouldn't be upset if a building built today were to have an awkward attachment added in 500 years that was built to the design standards of that time period.
Somebody showed me recently the rebuild of the Augusteum building of the University of Leipzig which had a hyper-modern redesign like 180 years after it was first built (look it up, it's pretty cool). And the building in this post is like a lower-effort, more earnest version of that idea. Is it bad real estate? Sure. But it's good architecture. "Authenticity" be damned.

[-] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

Basically, do you want an abandoned ruin rotting away in a field, or do you want a building that people will continue to live in and take care of into the future?

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[-] tjsauce@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Looks weird, but if they added a 3rd aesthetic, like Japanese wooden housing, or Russian brutalism, then we'd be talking.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 15 points 6 months ago

I believe that’s what they call “postmodern architecture”

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago
[-] sxan@midwest.social 10 points 6 months ago

UK server, OK. Fine. But OP has never been to Pennsylvania in the US. Most houses over a hundred years old look like this: you can see the generations that have lived in it. First it's stone and mortar; then there's a wood addition ca. the early 1900s; then there's a more modern addition ca. the 50's or later. There's one property that was briefly famous as it came up in Zillow that had 5 clearly distinctive styles and technologies worth of additions on it; it's like every generation added another room with whatever was in style at the time. I can't find a picture, but it was hideous.

I don't know if it's common all along the mid-Atlantic, but it is super common in Pennsylvania.

[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 9 points 6 months ago

Please tag NSFL, my poor eyes aaagh

[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 6 months ago

Is that a news crew huddling at the foot of it?

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It was featured in S1E4 of The Restoration Man, so I presume George Clarke is somewhere in that picture.

edit: and they return to it in S2E5 which is on YouTube.

[-] moreeni@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Average looking house in Ukraine. Khrushchovka that itself doesn't look too good is ruined by the fact that each flat was renovated with 0 attention to how the other ones look. There are usually some white walls, some gray, some are still orange form the bricks, some balconies have windows, some don't.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Everyone laughing at the repairs to your tower until the Mongol hordes return - and theirs still aren’t done because they were waiting to source the right Welsh stone.

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