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My dudes in North America really have the most unstructured social support system.
Don't look at us. I'm north american and have been in hotels plenty of times and have no clue what this dude is talking about.
Tipping people or not tipping people isn’t what’s perpetuating the system. Those who do tip aren’t at fault, it’s the ownership class exploiting workers so hard that they’ve delegated even their one, most basic duty off onto the customer: paying their fuckin employees.
You still have a 20% tip at restaurants, it’s insane
The 20% is relatively new. It was always around 10%, and then restaurants started "suggesting" higher tips on the receipts, and basically guilting people into tipping more. It was pushed up to 15% in the mid '00s, and then only pushed up to 20% during Covid. I have been called a piece of shit human on multiple occasions because I didn't buy into the restaurants randomly changing it on me. There is immense social pressure here around tipping.
The restaurants have a financial motivation to want the tips to be higher, so I feel like it's a conflict of interest for them to be suggesting the tip amount. I think the government needs to get involved and regulate tipping or even outright ban it at this point, because restaurants aren't going to stop pushing the envelope at 20%.
The company has gotta compensate for inflation somehow, right? They dont want to actually pay their employees, no no no, that would cut into profit. They have to make even more money so they push it onto the customer. Agreed honestly fuck this shit.
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That's exactly it. We recognize the failures in the pay structure and try to help people in the service industry, but it's gone completely overboard. A couple of dollars here and there is one thing, but 15-20% in a nice restaurant can be $50 and that seems ridiculous. If we stop tipping, we're only fucking the worker. We need for more restaurants to advertise that they pay a living wage.
No, not in Europe. People get paid for their work here.
I was surprised when I first heard about workers getting tipped regularly in america. It's crazy.
Tipping housekeepers is not the norm. You shouldn't feel obligated to tip, ever.
The 15% of a meal thing never made sense to me either. Does it take any more work to carry a $60 steak to a table than it does a $15 steak?
It's not My job to pay some company's employees a living wage when I don't even make a living wage myself.
I feel that way about bars - expensive wine is not harder to open than cheap wine. Had a fight with my husband about it because he once ordered a VERY expensive drink and then started to tip 20% on it.
if your getting the same service at a place that charges 15 vs 60 a steak that's pretty bad. it's not just carrying the food.
It's a percentage because the $60 steak was assumably at a nicer restaurant where you received more in depth service.
Fine dining servers may only have a couple of tables at once, or even for the entire night. You're paying more for more individual attention.
It also scales in reverse. A server on a shift with a $10 blue plate special will probably have 10 tables before things go off the rails. They'll also put serious work into getting your ass off that table the minute your plate is clean.
If I tip I generally do it based on the work/effort rather than the price.
The reason why restaurant tipping is usually percentage based is because the level of service expected scales with the price of the items on the menu. The expectations on servers in fine-dining is a lot higher than a neighbourhood pub and so is the price.
I've never heard of tipping housekeeping at hotels, why would you do that? They get paid by the hotel
Because it's a shit job with minimal pay, physically demanding, and the hours are usually cut in the off-season.
While it's nice for the employee to get some extra bucks, tipping only supports minimal pay for the job because "they'll make up for it in tips".
Not tipping only punishes the victim, not the employer.
I don't tip at hotels, ever.
I live in the US and I have never tipped housekeeping, nor have I ever heard of someone doing it.
Same tbh and I'm in the US. I didn't realize it was a common thing until I heard about someone doing it one day.
Sorry, but I only tip people that make a tipped wage like servers. I do not tip hotel staff. Many hotels have stopped servicing rooms every day unless you specifically request it anyway.
Yes. I tip regardless of how long my stay is. I leave money on the dresser or table when I check out.
I personally don't want anyone going in my room while I'm there. I thought covid finally changed this when hotels started only doing housekeeping between customers, or if requested, but unfortunately it seems like they are changing this back. It just seems like a waste of labor to have someone else make my bed.
I've never tipped people going into my room. I'd do it if I made a mess or something, though.
I sometimes leave out the do not disturb sign and then just grab fresh towels at the desk.
When you check in, just tell the desk that you don't want housekeeping sitting your stay.
I don't tip housekeeping normally.
This should hardly be a controversial norm: tip because you feel like it, period.
Tipping isn't a thing in my country, to the extent that if you left money lying around your room it would most probably still be there when you got back.
Unless maybe you were staying somewhere that gets a lot of tipping tourists.
it would most probably still be there when you got back.
What country is this
New Zealand.
Yap, +1 on my bucket list.
Cool, hope you make it here one day! Which country do you live in?
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I don't even let them in the room. Housekeeping left the door to my room open once for the entire day. I was across from the elevator. Thankfully nothing was stolen, but ya know, fool me once
On multi-night stays I tip if I want anything special, like extra coffee, or when my drunk friend destroyed the toilet. The only time I tip when leaving the hotel is if the housekeeper did something above and beyond normal expectations. Like when my wife started early and soiled the sheets. Left a note apologizing, a $20, and just expected fresh sheets. Nope. She replaced all the bedding and the mattress too. Left her another $20 and a thank you note when we checked out.
I was a housekeeper and most Asian folks leave a toonie on or around the pillow everyday in canada it was really sweet
American here. What's a toonie?
$2CAD coin
I'm in the US. Personally I always just leave a tip out in the morning before stepping out for the day, whether that's the day of checkout or before a mid-stay cleaning. That way I know it's always going to whoever ends up cleaning the room.
Only tip on stayovers. I used to be a housekeeper and I kind of grew to expect it after a guest had been in the room for multiple days, but never for just an overnight.
If you make a really big mess in the room, and don’t tip on a stay over, I would dip your toothbrush in the toilet 😂
And that's why i tip! 😉
Depends where I'm staying. In no-tipping countries i wouldn't tip at all, but if it's common/expected, I'd leave some change on the bedside table in the morning when leaving the hotel/checking out.
I've never tipped hotel workers/housekeeping unless we're at an all inclusive resort, which I feel is standard to tip there. Maybe I'm wrong though reading comments here.
Depends on where I'm at. In the U.S. (where I'm from), I would personally tip. I also tipped in Mexico when I vacationed there recently. I wouldn't tip in a no-tip/offensive-tip country (e.g. France).
Tip or don't tip, don't ever feel like there's an expectation to. Not always but I often leave 1-3 bucks in change usually when I check out, especially so if say the floor or bed gets a bit sandy or I check out at 11:10, something like that.
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